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help i just read the lesbian manifesto
Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
When you think of it, "men are toxic" arguments are not much different from "women weak, men strong" stereotypes

....sexist right 
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh
So let's just perpetuate the idea and spread that women need to be protected from men and "rapey trans women in bathrooms" yee
You realize conservatives who believe in gender roles think "its just in mens nature" to be sexually possessive and dominate and violent and that protecting women spares them from mens ways right 
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Anachronism wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
When you think of it, "men are toxic" arguments are not much different from "women weak, men strong" stereotypes

....sexist right 
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh
So let's just perpetuate the idea and spread that women need to be protected from men and "rapey trans women in bathrooms" yee
well what's so wrong abt women not wanting to have anything to do with males? it's not a new idea and separatism is good for women's health, physical and mental, as the presence of males around them no longer makes them become drained. 
are women not allowed or trusted to make their own decisions, this one included? or is it only when you still involve males in everything, it's okay?
Date: 14-12-2020 18:03
Alam
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Alam wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
When you think of it, "men are toxic" arguments are not much different from "women weak, men strong" stereotypes

....sexist right 
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh
So let's just perpetuate the idea and spread that women need to be protected from men and "rapey trans women in bathrooms" yee
I'm pretty sure you're both on the same page lol.
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absintjente wrote:
tbh i just dont think that much abt what i am. i like what i like, and i am queer and i dont really try to investigate further.
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MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
Actually my argument is thinking all men are toxic is basically believing we cant rid ourselves of patriarchy and also tends to rely on gender stereotypes and stuff 
When you think of it, "men are toxic" arguments are not much different from "women weak, men strong" stereotypes

....sexist right 
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh

so hate towards men doesn't exist because men are / were the oppressing class?
also society used to be matriarchic thousands of years ago, are we really saying that back then there was no possibility of women oppressing men?
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wug wrote:
can someone give me a summary of the main points in the discussion i fail to see how it relates to someone questioning their sexuality 
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Annie
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Annie wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh
So let's just perpetuate the idea and spread that women need to be protected from men and "rapey trans women in bathrooms" yee
well what's so wrong abt women not wanting to have anything to do with males? it's not a new idea and separatism is good for women's health, physical and mental, as the presence of males around them no longer makes them become drained. 
are women not allowed or trusted to make their own decisions, this one included? or is it only when you still involve males in everything, it's okay?
wait I didn't get this until now, but please correct me if I misread or understood you wrong: you believe women should be able to live without the presence of men at all? entirely?
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Anachronism
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Anachronism wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh
So let's just perpetuate the idea and spread that women need to be protected from men and "rapey trans women in bathrooms" yee
well what's so wrong abt women not wanting to have anything to do with males? it's not a new idea and separatism is good for women's health, physical and mental, as the presence of males around them no longer makes them become drained. 
are women not allowed or trusted to make their own decisions, this one included? or is it only when you still involve males in everything, it's okay?
You really think transphobic rad fems speak for all women? They don't speak for me 
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Snusmumrikken wrote:
can someone give me a summary of the main points in the discussion i fail to see how it relates to someone questioning their sexuality 
it's the same as always, one sidetrack and then everything goes to shitters
Date: 14-12-2020 18:05
Alam
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Alam wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
can someone give me a summary of the main points in the discussion i fail to see how it relates to someone questioning their sexuality 
It doesn't, there are like, three discussions going on at once and they're all stupid and pointless.
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Annie
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Annie wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
When you think of it, "men are toxic" arguments are not much different from "women weak, men strong" stereotypes

....sexist right 
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh

so hate towards men doesn't exist because men are / were the oppressing class?
also society used to be matriarchic thousands of years ago, are we really saying that back then there was no possibility of women oppressing men?
oof
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Date: 14-12-2020 18:05
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
can someone give me a summary of the main points in the discussion i fail to see how it relates to someone questioning their sexuality 

it doesn't
it kinda ran it's course on now we are on percieved gender roles in society
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wrote:
Annie wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
Anachronism wrote:
So let's just perpetuate the idea and spread that women need to be protected from men and "rapey trans women in bathrooms" yee
well what's so wrong abt women not wanting to have anything to do with males? it's not a new idea and separatism is good for women's health, physical and mental, as the presence of males around them no longer makes them become drained. 
are women not allowed or trusted to make their own decisions, this one included? or is it only when you still involve males in everything, it's okay?
wait I didn't get this until now, but please correct me if I misread or understood you wrong: you believe women should be able to live without the presence of men at all? entirely?
absolutely if they chose to.
Date: 14-12-2020 18:05
Annie
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Annie wrote:
Alam wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
can someone give me a summary of the main points in the discussion i fail to see how it relates to someone questioning their sexuality 
It doesn't, there are like, three discussions going on at once and they're all stupid and pointless.
I'm just tryna understand whats going on
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Date: 14-12-2020 18:06
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Annie wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
acidreflux wrote:
it would be sexist if .... women were the oppressing class, but that's not how reality works uhhh uhh

so hate towards men doesn't exist because men are / were the oppressing class?
also society used to be matriarchic thousands of years ago, are we really saying that back then there was no possibility of women oppressing men?
oof

that's me asking, because the matter truly confuses me
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