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can you be racist against white people
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heist wrote:
ouch wrote:
Im more confused abt ppl going away from the defenition of racism n only validating systematical racism like ??? How is it not racist to discrimate against someone purely based on their race, no matter if they white oe black or whatever they r 

i'd argue yes it's "racist" by pure definition but i think the point most people are getting at when saying you can't be racist against white people is that language is usually way more than the dictionary definition

not that non systemic racism isn't "valid" but that it like, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things

if someone says white people have thin lips like, ok, it might be rude but no one's dying or losing a job or what have you

whereas a similar "discriminatory" statement against a historically oppressed person sort of calls back to and reinforces a tradition of oppression in a way that a comment against white people would not

and so when people press back against someone calling a comment like that against white people "racist" it's not so much about the statement not being discriminatory but about that never really being the point of what anyone's talking about when they talk about racism (except for people who let idpol consume their brains and purely focus on microaggressions) but that when most people are discussing racism it's about the larger system, like it's just a stand in term for saying systemic racism

does that make any sense at all
Thank you. In the end, it's the difference between hurt feelings and systemic oppression. People of colour would trade with white people in a heartbeat. 

I would rather have my feelings hurt on the internet than have my people be killed, oppressed and degraded for the colour of their skin. 
Pavlov
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Dew wrote:
I think people of colour are sick of having this discussion. 
well nobodies forcing anyone to engage owo
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Pavlov wrote:
Dew wrote:
I think people of colour are sick of having this discussion. 
well nobodies forcing anyone to engage owo
Well having a bunch of white people discuss racism doesn't sound like a very meaningful thread. 
Pavlov
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heist wrote:
ouch wrote:
Im more confused abt ppl going away from the defenition of racism n only validating systematical racism like ??? How is it not racist to discrimate against someone purely based on their race, no matter if they white oe black or whatever they r 

i'd argue yes it's "racist" by pure definition but i think the point most people are getting at when saying you can't be racist against white people is that language is usually way more than the dictionary definition

not that non systemic racism isn't "valid" but that it like, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things

if someone says white people have thin lips like, ok, it might be rude but no one's dying or losing a job or what have you

whereas a similar "discriminatory" statement against a historically oppressed person sort of calls back to and reinforces a tradition of oppression in a way that a comment against white people would not

and so when people press back against someone calling a comment like that against white people "racist" it's not so much about the statement not being discriminatory but about that never really being the point of what anyone's talking about when they talk about racism (except for people who let idpol consume their brains and purely focus on microaggressions) but that when most people are discussing racism it's about the larger system, like it's just a stand in term for saying systemic racism

does that make any sense at all
does anything matter in the grand scheme of things we are all just a speck of dust in a pitch black nothing full of floating round empty rocks
Pavlov
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Dew wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
Dew wrote:
I think people of colour are sick of having this discussion. 
well nobodies forcing anyone to engage owo
Well having a bunch of white people discuss racism doesn't sound like a very meaningful thread. 
gotta spend our time on something hehe
Heist
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Pavlov wrote:
heist wrote:
ouch wrote:
Im more confused abt ppl going away from the defenition of racism n only validating systematical racism like ??? How is it not racist to discrimate against someone purely based on their race, no matter if they white oe black or whatever they r 

i'd argue yes it's "racist" by pure definition but i think the point most people are getting at when saying you can't be racist against white people is that language is usually way more than the dictionary definition

not that non systemic racism isn't "valid" but that it like, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things

if someone says white people have thin lips like, ok, it might be rude but no one's dying or losing a job or what have you

whereas a similar "discriminatory" statement against a historically oppressed person sort of calls back to and reinforces a tradition of oppression in a way that a comment against white people would not

and so when people press back against someone calling a comment like that against white people "racist" it's not so much about the statement not being discriminatory but about that never really being the point of what anyone's talking about when they talk about racism (except for people who let idpol consume their brains and purely focus on microaggressions) but that when most people are discussing racism it's about the larger system, like it's just a stand in term for saying systemic racism

does that make any sense at all
does anything matter in the grand scheme of things we are all just a speck of dust in a pitch black nothing full of floating round empty rocks
i think people dying matters yeah 
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Pavlov wrote:
heist wrote:
ouch wrote:
Im more confused abt ppl going away from the defenition of racism n only validating systematical racism like ??? How is it not racist to discrimate against someone purely based on their race, no matter if they white oe black or whatever they r 

i'd argue yes it's "racist" by pure definition but i think the point most people are getting at when saying you can't be racist against white people is that language is usually way more than the dictionary definition

not that non systemic racism isn't "valid" but that it like, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things

if someone says white people have thin lips like, ok, it might be rude but no one's dying or losing a job or what have you

whereas a similar "discriminatory" statement against a historically oppressed person sort of calls back to and reinforces a tradition of oppression in a way that a comment against white people would not

and so when people press back against someone calling a comment like that against white people "racist" it's not so much about the statement not being discriminatory but about that never really being the point of what anyone's talking about when they talk about racism (except for people who let idpol consume their brains and purely focus on microaggressions) but that when most people are discussing racism it's about the larger system, like it's just a stand in term for saying systemic racism

does that make any sense at all
does anything matter in the grand scheme of things we are all just a speck of dust in a pitch black nothing full of floating round empty rocks
You read all of that and that was your take? 

You do realise that feeling this way is a privilege right? You can afford to not care. Minorities can't lmfao.

I'm not attacking you or anything but come on now.
Pavlov
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heist wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
heist wrote:

i'd argue yes it's "racist" by pure definition but i think the point most people are getting at when saying you can't be racist against white people is that language is usually way more than the dictionary definition

not that non systemic racism isn't "valid" but that it like, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things

if someone says white people have thin lips like, ok, it might be rude but no one's dying or losing a job or what have you

whereas a similar "discriminatory" statement against a historically oppressed person sort of calls back to and reinforces a tradition of oppression in a way that a comment against white people would not

and so when people press back against someone calling a comment like that against white people "racist" it's not so much about the statement not being discriminatory but about that never really being the point of what anyone's talking about when they talk about racism (except for people who let idpol consume their brains and purely focus on microaggressions) but that when most people are discussing racism it's about the larger system, like it's just a stand in term for saying systemic racism

does that make any sense at all
does anything matter in the grand scheme of things we are all just a speck of dust in a pitch black nothing full of floating round empty rocks
i think people dying matters yeah 
so if the race in question has a low racism caused fatality rate does that make their experience less valid
Heist
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Pavlov wrote:
heist wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
does anything matter in the grand scheme of things we are all just a speck of dust in a pitch black nothing full of floating round empty rocks
i think people dying matters yeah 
so if the race in question has a low racism caused fatality rate does that make their experience less valid
sure
Pavlov
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heist wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
heist wrote:
i think people dying matters yeah 
so if the race in question has a low racism caused fatality rate does that make their experience less valid
sure
damn
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Dew wrote:
I think people of colour are sick of having this discussion. 
Nah, I’ve actually learned how poc feel, think and their culture 
while living the experience. 
the woke folks dropped the ball today tho
since it’s Dr. King day oops 
Pavlov
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MissLondon wrote:
Dew wrote:
I think people of colour are sick of having this discussion. 
Nah, I’ve actually learned how poc feel, think and their culture 
while living the experience. 
the woke folks dropped the ball today tho
since it’s Dr. King day oops 
wait is it really 
Pavlov
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Pavlov wrote:
heist wrote:
Pavlov wrote:
so if the race in question has a low racism caused fatality rate does that make their experience less valid
sure
damn
what ive gotten out of this though is that racism and how it is defined is very centered around what happens in countries where white people are majority and not in countries where they are not, so say, can racism happen outside of these places? 
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MissLondon wrote:
Dew wrote:
I think people of colour are sick of having this discussion. 
Nah, I’ve actually learned how poc feel, think and their culture 
while living the experience. 
the woke folks dropped the ball today tho
since it’s Dr. King day oops 
not sure what you mean
MissLondon
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Dew wrote:
MissLondon wrote:
Dew wrote:
I think people of colour are sick of having this discussion. 
Nah, I’ve actually learned how poc feel, think and their culture 
while living the experience. 
the woke folks dropped the ball today tho
since it’s Dr. King day oops 
not sure what you mean
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr._Day
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