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Cerveza
Streetmusician



Areximache wrote:
Cerveza wrote:
Areximache wrote:
hey stranger
Hey Arexi you're you doing
i doing fine, how bout u?
I'm too!
I think I will be the last VP'er of the year on the dutch server whahahah That seems funny to me 
Areximache
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Cerveza wrote:
sin wrote:
ive never seen an ad on vp 
Do you use Ecosia? Some webbrowsers do have an inbuilt (inbuild? sorry idk) adblocker
build in 
Areximache
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Cerveza wrote:
Areximache wrote:
Cerveza wrote:
Hey Arexi you're you doing
i doing fine, how bout u?
I'm too!
I think I will be the last VP'er of the year on the dutch server whahahah That seems funny to me 
deff worth it i wish i had a last btb win to my name ahha Sadge
Private
Minister of Pop



Areximache wrote:
Cerveza wrote:
Areximache wrote:
i doing fine, how bout u?
I'm too!
I think I will be the last VP'er of the year on the dutch server whahahah That seems funny to me 
deff worth it i wish i had a last btb win to my name ahha Sadge
I'm curious, what is the "Be the best" thing? I have seen some of the sets but I don't know what it is about hehe
Private
Minister of Pop



Cerveza wrote:
VP-Etjen wrote:
Cerveza wrote:
And Etjen basically said "if you want to keep this server alive you guys have to give me at least a.monthly income!!! Pay!!!" But why would you pay if the site is on the verge of shutting down and there are no updates even after a lot of people paying and waiting for a very long time

Sorry... not completely what I said... I actually said that NL needs to pay for its basic cost as we cannot keep taking money from DE and EN so that the NL players can keep playing for free. This is unfair to the other servers. Paying for your basic costs doesn't even give me anything... it merely prevents me from draining money from DE and EN.

Someone asked a question about ads... yes, we've started paying for ads and hopefully this is showing some results.
Nah, you DID say it: "We laten NL voortbestaan en dan moeten we ook op zoek naar een nieuwe Admin. Uiteraard moet er wel iedere maand voor een minimum bedrag aan credits gekocht worden zodat de basis kosten betaald kunnen krijgen. " Which translates to "The Nl server may excist, but we must look for a new Admin. Also; every month there must be bought a minimum amount of credits so that the costs can be payed" Sorry for my very very bad English at the moment but my brain is fried 
I mean you just said yourself with the translation that he did not say that you need to pay HIM an income but well
servers cost money to maintain and keep alive after all, before you even make a profit out of it
Cerveza
Streetmusician



For those wondering what the whole e-mail was like

Dutch e-mail:
Beste NL VP-ers,
Op de eerste plaats moet ik met spijt aankondigen dat Wishbone niet langer Admin is voor NL. Toen, enkele maanden geleden, Wishbone mij liet weten dat zij voor gSm wou designen, vond ik dat dit niet kon omdat zij als Admin de Nederlandstalige Virtual Popstar vertegenwoordigde en daarboven op designde zij toen ook voor VP. Vandaag ben ik erachter gekomen dat zij alsnog voor gSm designde en hierdoor heb ik jammer genoeg de beslissing genomen om haar Admin functie te beëindigen.
 
Wat betekent dit voor NL?
Het is geen geheim dat de credit en MCW-inkomsten bij NL flink gedaald zijn. De vraag die we ons dan ook moeten stellen is: ‘Heeft het nog zin om met NL verder te gaan?’
Er zijn dagelijks nog redelijk wat mensen op NL en verschillenden spelen VP nog actief, maar ergens moeten de kosten ook betaald worden.
Volgens mij zijn er twee mogelijkheden.
1)     We laten NL voortbestaan en dan moeten we ook op zoek naar een nieuwe Admin. Uiteraard moet er wel iedere maand voor een minimum bedrag aan credits gekocht worden zodat de basis kosten betaald kunnen krijgen. Sinds EN en DE al een groot deel van de kosten voor zich nemen, kan dit basis bedrag voor NL verlaagd worden.
2)     We stoppen NL en spelers die dat willen kunnen dan een account aanmaken bij EN of DE.
Ik heb al bij de IT-developers navraag gedaan of we de NL-database kunnen overzetten naar EN. Dit blijkt jammer genoeg niet mogelijk. We kijken verder ook na of we enkel de kleding-sets van NL spelers naar een andere server over kunnen zetten.
Indien dit ook niet mogelijk is, dan zouden we de spelers die tijdens het laatste jaar MCW-sets gekocht hebben via NL, op de andere server (EN of DE) voor die sets bijvoorbeeld codes kunnen geven. Zelfs als jullie nog tijdens deze en de volgende MCW kleding-sets kopen, dan kunnen jullie die alsnog behouden op een andere server moest NL dicht gaan.
Ik zal een forum topic creëren met als titel: ‘Hoe met het verder met NL’. Laten we daar dan de opties bespreken en ik zal jullie daar dan ook updaten met antwoorden die ik van de developers krijg.
Groetjes, Etjen

Translated in google translated (his name translates to etje im dying"
Dear NL VP-ers,First of all, I regret to announce that Wishbone is no longer Admin for NL. When, a few months ago, Wishbone informed me that she wanted to design for gSm, I thought this was not possible because as Admin she represented the Dutch Virtual Popstar and on top of that she also designed for VP. Today I found out that she still designed for GSM and because of this I unfortunately made the decision to end her Admin function.

What does this mean for NL?
It's no secret that credit and MCW income has fallen sharply at NL. The question we should therefore ask ourselves is: "Does it still make sense to continue with NL?"
There are still quite a few people on NL every day and several still play VP actively, but somewhere the costs also have to be paid.

In my opinion there are two possibilities.
1) We let NL continue to exist and then we also have to look for a new Admin. Of course, a minimum amount of credits must be purchased every month so that the basic costs can be paid. Since EN and DE already cover a large part of the costs, this basic amount can be reduced for NL.
2) We stop NL and players who want to can then create an account at EN or DE.
I have already inquired with the IT developers whether we can transfer the NL database to EN. Unfortunately this turns out not to be possible. We are also checking whether we can only transfer the clothing sets of NL players to another server.
If this is also not possible, then we could give the players who bought MCW sets via NL during the last year, for example, codes for those sets on the other server (EN or DE). Even if you still buy clothing sets during this and the next MCW, you can still keep them on another server if NL closes.

I will create a forum topic with the title: 'How to continue with NL'. Then let's discuss the options there and I will update you there as well with answers I get from the developers.

Regards, Etje
Cerveza
Streetmusician



Abby wrote:
Cerveza wrote:
VP-Etjen wrote:

Sorry... not completely what I said... I actually said that NL needs to pay for its basic cost as we cannot keep taking money from DE and EN so that the NL players can keep playing for free. This is unfair to the other servers. Paying for your basic costs doesn't even give me anything... it merely prevents me from draining money from DE and EN.

Someone asked a question about ads... yes, we've started paying for ads and hopefully this is showing some results.
Nah, you DID say it: "We laten NL voortbestaan en dan moeten we ook op zoek naar een nieuwe Admin. Uiteraard moet er wel iedere maand voor een minimum bedrag aan credits gekocht worden zodat de basis kosten betaald kunnen krijgen. " Which translates to "The Nl server may excist, but we must look for a new Admin. Also; every month there must be bought a minimum amount of credits so that the costs can be payed" Sorry for my very very bad English at the moment but my brain is fried 
I mean you just said yourself with the translation that he did not say that you need to pay HIM an income but well
servers cost money to maintain and keep alive after all, before you even make a profit out of it
but it says we need to pay so 
Cerveza
Streetmusician



Libertas wrote:
Areximache wrote:
Cerveza wrote:
I'm too!
I think I will be the last VP'er of the year on the dutch server whahahah That seems funny to me 
deff worth it i wish i had a last btb win to my name ahha Sadge
I'm curious, what is the "Be the best" thing? I have seen some of the sets but I don't know what it is about hehe
yeah it is our version of who do you want to give a credit for their work/their characteristics
Private
Minister of Pop



Cerveza wrote:
liberta wrote:
Areximache wrote:
deff worth it i wish i had a last btb win to my name ahha Sadge
I'm curious, what is the "Be the best" thing? I have seen some of the sets but I don't know what it is about hehe
yeah it is our version of who do you want to give a credit for their work/their characteristics
So like a "User of the year" kinda thing? 
Areximache
National star



Libertas wrote:
Areximache wrote:
Cerveza wrote:
I'm too!
I think I will be the last VP'er of the year on the dutch server whahahah That seems funny to me 
deff worth it i wish i had a last btb win to my name ahha Sadge
I'm curious, what is the "Be the best" thing? I have seen some of the sets but I don't know what it is about hehe
it's like a voting thing where u vote on the people u think are the best in thing like the best mod, best designer, funniest person and that kind of thing.
Cerveza
Streetmusician



Libertas wrote:
Cerveza wrote:
liberta wrote:
I'm curious, what is the "Be the best" thing? I have seen some of the sets but I don't know what it is about hehe
yeah it is our version of who do you want to give a credit for their work/their characteristics
So like a "User of the year" kinda thing? 
Yeah!! 
Private
Minister of Pop



Areximache wrote:
Libertas wrote:
Areximache wrote:
deff worth it i wish i had a last btb win to my name ahha Sadge
I'm curious, what is the "Be the best" thing? I have seen some of the sets but I don't know what it is about hehe
it's like a voting thing where u vote on the people u think are the best in thing like the best mod, best designer, funniest person and that kind of thing.
Oh sounds interesting! 
Areximache
National star



Libertas wrote:
Areximache wrote:
Libertas wrote:
I'm curious, what is the "Be the best" thing? I have seen some of the sets but I don't know what it is about hehe
it's like a voting thing where u vote on the people u think are the best in thing like the best mod, best designer, funniest person and that kind of thing.
Oh sounds interesting! 
it was deff.. something ahahah.
i think the nl server made it more toxic then it had to be so i never really liked it 'x'
Private
Minister of Pop



Areximache wrote:
Libertas wrote:
Areximache wrote:
it's like a voting thing where u vote on the people u think are the best in thing like the best mod, best designer, funniest person and that kind of thing.
Oh sounds interesting! 
it was deff.. something ahahah.
i think the nl server made it more toxic then it had to be so i never really liked it 'x'
Oh... 
Private
Minister of Pop



Cerveza wrote:
Abby wrote:
Cerveza wrote:
Nah, you DID say it: "We laten NL voortbestaan en dan moeten we ook op zoek naar een nieuwe Admin. Uiteraard moet er wel iedere maand voor een minimum bedrag aan credits gekocht worden zodat de basis kosten betaald kunnen krijgen. " Which translates to "The Nl server may excist, but we must look for a new Admin. Also; every month there must be bought a minimum amount of credits so that the costs can be payed" Sorry for my very very bad English at the moment but my brain is fried 
I mean you just said yourself with the translation that he did not say that you need to pay HIM an income but well
servers cost money to maintain and keep alive after all, before you even make a profit out of it
but it says we need to pay so 
I mean if the NL people want to use the server, yeah they do lmao
it is not fair for the EN ad DE servers that the money they pay goes to the NL server lmao
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