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Calling Out Judy
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Limited wrote:
Who is Judy? 
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Date: 25-06-2020 23:23
BEWAREARTEMIS
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:

Ah I'm doing a terrible job explaining I suggest the article it's from professionals on this topic
I'm sorry, I'm just not capable of understanding this new tendencies  All I understood is that people somehow can identify with a mental health issue (Talking about the sexual dysphoria) and that there are people who prefer using two pronouns ? 

No don't worry it's my fault and It's not a mental health issue really the mental health is a side effect more like but yea people can have different pronouns and express themselves beyond the classic idea of gender roles and concepts
But disliking your genitals and your body is a mental health issue, though ? I don't believe it's healthy to feel like that about your body.
About the pronouns, I don't really think it's too important because well, it doesn't change the individual's sex or anything important so, whatever it works for them o:

But about gender roles, I don't believe anyone can actually like.. *identify* out of them, because it's a social construct that may or may not oppress you based on your sex
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Date: 25-06-2020 23:25
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
I'm sorry, I'm just not capable of understanding this new tendencies  All I understood is that people somehow can identify with a mental health issue (Talking about the sexual dysphoria) and that there are people who prefer using two pronouns ? 

No don't worry it's my fault and It's not a mental health issue really the mental health is a side effect more like but yea people can have different pronouns and express themselves beyond the classic idea of gender roles and concepts
But disliking your genitals and your body is a mental health issue, though ? I don't believe it's healthy to feel like that about your body.
About the pronouns, I don't really think it's too important because well, it doesn't change the individual's sex or anything important so, whatever it works for them o:

But about gender roles, I don't believe anyone can actually like.. *identify* out of them, because it's a social construct that may or may not oppress you based on your sex
@BEWAREARTEMIS  I suggest reading more into transgender and other gender issues because I feel like I might be confusing you more but I assure you it's completely healthy and normal
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Date: 26-06-2020 05:43
Alam
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Alam wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Well their are people who are born and do feel disconnected with their assigned sex at birth and its deeper then the gender assigned those are transgender. 
Ohh, sexual dysphoria then?

Yes!
No! It's gender dysphoria. I suggest you inform yourself more before trying to inform other people on issues that are not your own to speak about. Unless you are yourself trans, in which case you should really  educate yourself more.
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Date: 26-06-2020 06:39
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skeIeton wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Ah when I mean Gender I think of pronouns and the way you express yours like nonbinary/cis/bigender
But pronouns are linked to your sex, as a way to refer as someone by their sex, isn't it?
And what does bigender or non binary mean?
https://genderspectrum.org/articles/understanding-gender heres a great article about it and bigender is having two genders and non binary means no gender  
nonbinary doesn't mean no gender. agender means no gender, and falls under the nonbinary umbrella.

ie all agender ppl are nonbinary, but not all nonbinary ppl are agender. there are nonbinary ppl who experience gender, such as being genderfluid, or being male/female-aligned.

basically what alam said above, u need to educate urself before talking abt this stuff, cos u can do far more harm than good spreading false info
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Date: 26-06-2020 06:42
BEWAREARTEMIS
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Ohh, sexual dysphoria then?

Yes!
No! It's gender dysphoria. I suggest you inform yourself more before trying to inform other people on issues that are not your own to speak about. Unless you are yourself trans, in which case you should really  educate yourself more.
Then I'm lost again. What does gender mean then? Because Bunny, by gender, she meant pronouns and how youexpress them. If that's the meaning of gender in your language, then gender dysphoria would be about pronouns? (And that would be weird, I don't think anyone could feel bad for people using pronouns to refer to them?)
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Date: 26-06-2020 09:13
Alam
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Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:

Yes!
No! It's gender dysphoria. I suggest you inform yourself more before trying to inform other people on issues that are not your own to speak about. Unless you are yourself trans, in which case you should really  educate yourself more.
Then I'm lost again. What does gender mean then? Because Bunny, by gender, she meant pronouns and how youexpress them. If that's the meaning of gender in your language, then gender dysphoria would be about pronouns? (And that would be weird, I don't think anyone could feel bad for people using pronouns to refer to them?)
Gender is, to the extent of my understanding on the subject, the psychological and social aspect of sex. People with gender dysphoria's gender does not align with their biological (rather than neurological) sex. That mean, in practical terms and for example, a person that was assigned female/male at birth (abbreviated as afab and amab respectively) feeling great discomfort, mismatch and/or unease with their sex characteristics and feeling as if they were, as they say, "born in the wrong body". So a transgender man is a man that was assigned female at birth but felt/feels like a male. I know this is very hard to comprehend because cisgender people (people that align with their assigned sex) the feelings of "being a man" or "being a woman" are taken for granted and not really thought about, however this is a very real and very valid diagnosis to which the best known treatment is social and/or medical transition. Hope that helps!

As for non-binary gender identities, I'd rather not speak on the subject as there are plenty of people here that identify under that umbrella and would be happy to explain it to you, whereas I do not.
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Date: 26-06-2020 11:18
Saint
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saint wrote:
i accidentally outed my best friend to our other best friend.... i still feel bad about it but there's no hard feelings anymore, she was really upset which i understand now but at the time i was like 'it's not a big deal to be gay' because coming out wasn't a big deal to/for me but of course everyone has different views on the importance of coming out
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Date: 26-06-2020 11:25
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
Alam wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Ohh, sexual dysphoria then?

Yes!
No! It's gender dysphoria. I suggest you inform yourself more before trying to inform other people on issues that are not your own to speak about. Unless you are yourself trans, in which case you should really  educate yourself more.

@Alam   My apologies I misspoke 
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Date: 26-06-2020 17:26
Alam
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Alam wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Alam wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:

Yes!
No! It's gender dysphoria. I suggest you inform yourself more before trying to inform other people on issues that are not your own to speak about. Unless you are yourself trans, in which case you should really  educate yourself more.

@Alam   My apologies I misspoke 
It's okay, just don't speak on matters that aren't yours to explain to people if you're not sure.
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Date: 26-06-2020 17:27
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
skeIeton wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
But pronouns are linked to your sex, as a way to refer as someone by their sex, isn't it?
And what does bigender or non binary mean?
https://genderspectrum.org/articles/understanding-gender heres a great article about it and bigender is having two genders and non binary means no gender  
nonbinary doesn't mean no gender. agender means no gender, and falls under the nonbinary umbrella.

ie all agender ppl are nonbinary, but not all nonbinary ppl are agender. there are nonbinary ppl who experience gender, such as being genderfluid, or being male/female-aligned.

basically what alam said above, u need to educate urself before talking abt this stuff, cos u can do far more harm than good spreading false info

@skeIeton I'm sorry I realized I was doing more harm then good and that's why I left. I'm sorry I'll look more into the topic because I'm clearly over my head
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Date: 26-06-2020 17:28
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
Alam wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Alam wrote:
No! It's gender dysphoria. I suggest you inform yourself more before trying to inform other people on issues that are not your own to speak about. Unless you are yourself trans, in which case you should really  educate yourself more.

@Alam   My apologies I misspoke 
It's okay, just don't speak on matters that aren't yours to explain to people if you're not sure.

I understand I'll look more into everything
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Date: 26-06-2020 17:28
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