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what to do if some1 has offensive humor
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Do you think it's okay to joke, for example, about the Holocaust? Because if we go by your argument, we could not tell someone to not joke about this because we *don't* (it's more about respecting the victims) like it
i think its ok to joke about everything

but like obvi not everything is APPROPRIATE but that another question. i dont take jokes seriously
Well then I could go around saying (another example) that black people are "monkeys" and you could not criticize me because its "free speech" and it's "ok" to joke about it because it "shouldn't be taken seriously". I find this just a way to hurt others and expect it to be taken as a joke or funny without facing consequences for the dumb shit you say
i dont think hate speech n jokes r the same thing
BEWAREARTEMIS
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Puftoss wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
i think its ok to joke about everything

but like obvi not everything is APPROPRIATE but that another question. i dont take jokes seriously
Well then I could go around saying (another example) that black people are "monkeys" and you could not criticize me because its "free speech" and it's "ok" to joke about it because it "shouldn't be taken seriously". I find this just a way to hurt others and expect it to be taken as a joke or funny without facing consequences for the dumb shit you say
i dont think hate speech n jokes r the same thing
You just said it's okay to joke about *everything*. Then consider racism as everything
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Well then I could go around saying (another example) that black people are "monkeys" and you could not criticize me because its "free speech" and it's "ok" to joke about it because it "shouldn't be taken seriously". I find this just a way to hurt others and expect it to be taken as a joke or funny without facing consequences for the dumb shit you say
i dont think hate speech n jokes r the same thing
You just said it's okay to joke about *everything*. Then consider racism as everything
yeah but going around n calling black ppl monkeys isnt rly a joke at least in not the context ur presenting it as
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Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
I mean, if you're not Jewish it's not your tragedy to joke about. You can still do whatever you want but free speech doesn't make you immune to criticism or people just generally thinking you're a dick.
I find it pretty offensive, although it would obviously be worse if it was a joke made by a non-jewish person.
I just don't understand why people ask for "free speech" when it comes, in this case, to make offensive and hurtful jokes about serious episodes of history.
I believe they really aren't asking for free speech, but rather to not get criticized for doing offensive shit and expect everyone to accept it and shut up
People tend to laugh about their own tragedies, it's human nature. It's fine as long as it's not at the expense of the suffering of other people.
What would you consider an okay-joke about Holocaust, then?
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Puftoss wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
i dont think hate speech n jokes r the same thing
You just said it's okay to joke about *everything*. Then consider racism as everything
yeah but going around n calling black ppl monkeys isnt rly a joke at least in not the context ur presenting it as
Take any racist "joke" then
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
You just said it's okay to joke about *everything*. Then consider racism as everything
yeah but going around n calling black ppl monkeys isnt rly a joke at least in not the context ur presenting it as
Take any racist "joke" then
if its a joke then its a joke
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Puftoss wrote:
Juniper wrote:
I think it’s kind of like concept with the n word 
and that is?
Isn’t the general rule that u can’t say it unless ur black or else it’s considered racist and rude 

if the other person doesn’t find it funny and u made a joke at their expense, u failed and should apologize 
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
I find it pretty offensive, although it would obviously be worse if it was a joke made by a non-jewish person.
I just don't understand why people ask for "free speech" when it comes, in this case, to make offensive and hurtful jokes about serious episodes of history.
I believe they really aren't asking for free speech, but rather to not get criticized for doing offensive shit and expect everyone to accept it and shut up
People tend to laugh about their own tragedies, it's human nature. It's fine as long as it's not at the expense of the suffering of other people.
What would you consider an okay-joke about Holocaust, then?
4 example, the joke pewdiepie made a couple of years ago or whenever that was. he said that as a joke which is very different from him going around in town screaming that like if he did that then its obvi not a joke n just hate speech
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Juniper wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
Juniper wrote:
I think it’s kind of like concept with the n word 
and that is?
Isn’t the general rule that u can’t say it unless ur black or else it’s considered racist and rude 

if the other person doesn’t find it funny and u made a joke at their expense, u failed and should apologize 
so a non-fat person cant make a fat joke for example? see i dont like that
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Puftoss wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
yeah but going around n calling black ppl monkeys isnt rly a joke at least in not the context ur presenting it as
Take any racist "joke" then
if its a joke then its a joke
Lmao, I just can't. It's really sad that you consider racist *jokes*, just jokes and okay
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Puftoss wrote:
Juniper wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
and that is?
Isn’t the general rule that u can’t say it unless ur black or else it’s considered racist and rude 

if the other person doesn’t find it funny and u made a joke at their expense, u failed and should apologize 
so a non-fat person cant make a fat joke for example? see i dont like that
Why would a skinny person make a fat joke, apart from being disrespectful and offensive to fat people
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
Juniper wrote:
Isn’t the general rule that u can’t say it unless ur black or else it’s considered racist and rude 

if the other person doesn’t find it funny and u made a joke at their expense, u failed and should apologize 
so a non-fat person cant make a fat joke for example? see i dont like that
Why would a skinny person make a fat joke, apart from being disrespectful and offensive to fat people
why do ppl make jokes? to entertian and make ppl laugh. ppl make jokes at my expense all the time and thats ok
BEWAREARTEMIS
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Puftoss wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Alam wrote:
People tend to laugh about their own tragedies, it's human nature. It's fine as long as it's not at the expense of the suffering of other people.
What would you consider an okay-joke about Holocaust, then?
4 example, the joke pewdiepie made a couple of years ago or whenever that was. he said that as a joke which is very different from him going around in town screaming that like if he did that then its obvi not a joke n just hate speech
Him being a really known person and saying *jokes* like that is already wrong enough. It just gives people who discriminate others for their sex, religion, race, sexuality or whatever an escape goat for when they make this "jokes". Because it makes them think "So if this person jokes about this, then it's okay for me to joke about it too". 
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BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
What would you consider an okay-joke about Holocaust, then?
4 example, the joke pewdiepie made a couple of years ago or whenever that was. he said that as a joke which is very different from him going around in town screaming that like if he did that then its obvi not a joke n just hate speech
Him being a really known person and saying *jokes* like that is already wrong enough. It just gives people who discriminate others for their sex, religion, race, sexuality or whatever an escape goat for when they make this "jokes". Because it makes them think "So if this person jokes about this, then it's okay for me to joke about it too". 
do you think its never ok to make jokes about that? like literally never
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Puftoss wrote:
BEWAREARTEMIS wrote:
Puftoss wrote:
so a non-fat person cant make a fat joke for example? see i dont like that
Why would a skinny person make a fat joke, apart from being disrespectful and offensive to fat people
why do ppl make jokes? to entertian and make ppl laugh. ppl make jokes at my expense all the time and thats ok
Well if people make jokes about you as an individual and you're okay with it, there's nothing I can say about it because it's your choice. But it's not funny to make fat jokes in general, or any joke that can be discriminating to people
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