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Whats up with languages u know?
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
 Like why do some feel the need to have to gender everything??
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Date: 30-09-2020 23:20
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it's normal for me, it's just the way language developed you know, it would sound weird to say die Mensch, you know
Date: 30-09-2020 23:22
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Koolaid wrote:
i find it also useless but its an artifact of language so hey
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Date: 30-09-2020 23:23
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BunnyButts wrote:
disintegration wrote:
it's normal for me, it's just the way language developed you know, it would sound weird to say die Mensch, you know
yea I guess cause like there are points in languages where Im like damn that smart but like others Im like huh why
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Date: 30-09-2020 23:23
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Imani wrote:
It's so annoying.
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Date: 30-09-2020 23:23
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
i find it also useless but its an artifact of language so hey

you're right lets make a new language!
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Date: 30-09-2020 23:24
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wug wrote:
i hope you are aware that the process of gendering words isn't about gender in the same sense as human gender, it's more like you have conjugation patterns for a set of nouns and conjugate a group of words within one pattern while others have different patterns. 
There are several languages who have more than two genders, some languages have more than three. Some languages exhibit a gender-like distinction in nouns but in fact it's more about inanimate vs animate nouns. 
I think for Norwegian it's about phonology, allegedly. But it's hard to tell. 
It has to be some phonological cues behind it tho as nonce words are automatically gendered by speakers who talk gendered languages as long as they follow the phonological rules of the language and they generally find patterns on like words with these consonants are often feminine, neuter, masculine etc. 
However in Norwegian, it appears that new words to a very large degree are masculine. Probably because of the merge between feminine and masculine nouns resulting in a huge section of the language's lexicon being masculine nouns, therefore this is applied to more words. 
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Date: 30-09-2020 23:25
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
Referee wrote:
It's so annoying.
it makes learning a new language extra annoying cause now I have to learn the genders of things
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Date: 30-09-2020 23:25
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wug wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Referee wrote:
It's so annoying.
it makes learning a new language extra annoying cause now I have to learn the genders of things
you don't have to, just wing it 
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Date: 30-09-2020 23:26
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
i hope you are aware that the process of gendering words isn't about gender in the same sense as human gender, it's more like you have conjugation patterns for a set of nouns and conjugate a group of words within one pattern while others have different patterns. 
There are several languages who have more than two genders, some languages have more than three. Some languages exhibit a gender-like distinction in nouns but in fact it's more about inanimate vs animate nouns. 
I think for Norwegian it's about phonology, allegedly. But it's hard to tell. 
It has to be some phonological cues behind it tho as nonce words are automatically gendered by speakers who talk gendered languages as long as they follow the phonological rules of the language and they generally find patterns on like words with these consonants are often feminine, neuter, masculine etc. 
However in Norwegian, it appears that new words to a very large degree are masculine. Probably because of the merge between feminine and masculine nouns resulting in a huge section of the language's lexicon being masculine nouns, therefore this is applied to more words. 

oo I kinda did mostly just complaining cause new conjunctions rules I have to learn
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Date: 30-09-2020 23:27
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wug wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Referee wrote:
It's so annoying.
it makes learning a new language extra annoying cause now I have to learn the genders of things
you don't have to, just wing it 
in italian it's allegedly very easy because of the -o and -a endings. all words in Italian end on a vowel 
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Date: 30-09-2020 23:27
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wug wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
i hope you are aware that the process of gendering words isn't about gender in the same sense as human gender, it's more like you have conjugation patterns for a set of nouns and conjugate a group of words within one pattern while others have different patterns. 
There are several languages who have more than two genders, some languages have more than three. Some languages exhibit a gender-like distinction in nouns but in fact it's more about inanimate vs animate nouns. 
I think for Norwegian it's about phonology, allegedly. But it's hard to tell. 
It has to be some phonological cues behind it tho as nonce words are automatically gendered by speakers who talk gendered languages as long as they follow the phonological rules of the language and they generally find patterns on like words with these consonants are often feminine, neuter, masculine etc. 
However in Norwegian, it appears that new words to a very large degree are masculine. Probably because of the merge between feminine and masculine nouns resulting in a huge section of the language's lexicon being masculine nouns, therefore this is applied to more words. 

oo I kinda did mostly just complaining cause new conjunctions rules I have to learn
Native speakers can mess up as much as 10% without it being significant linguistically lmao. No worries. 
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Sofia wrote:
Danish is so easy tbh it's either he, she or it
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BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
it makes learning a new language extra annoying cause now I have to learn the genders of things
you don't have to, just wing it 
in italian it's allegedly very easy because of the -o and -a endings. all words in Italian end on a vowel 

aaa thats what Im trying to learn but some of the things I learned in french are the oppsite in italian so Im just ugh  
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Date: 30-09-2020 23:28
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devilcake wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
i hope you are aware that the process of gendering words isn't about gender in the same sense as human gender, it's more like you have conjugation patterns for a set of nouns and conjugate a group of words within one pattern while others have different patterns. 
There are several languages who have more than two genders, some languages have more than three. Some languages exhibit a gender-like distinction in nouns but in fact it's more about inanimate vs animate nouns. 
I think for Norwegian it's about phonology, allegedly. But it's hard to tell. 
It has to be some phonological cues behind it tho as nonce words are automatically gendered by speakers who talk gendered languages as long as they follow the phonological rules of the language and they generally find patterns on like words with these consonants are often feminine, neuter, masculine etc. 
However in Norwegian, it appears that new words to a very large degree are masculine. Probably because of the merge between feminine and masculine nouns resulting in a huge section of the language's lexicon being masculine nouns, therefore this is applied to more words. 

my human gender is neutrum
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BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
i hope you are aware that the process of gendering words isn't about gender in the same sense as human gender, it's more like you have conjugation patterns for a set of nouns and conjugate a group of words within one pattern while others have different patterns. 
There are several languages who have more than two genders, some languages have more than three. Some languages exhibit a gender-like distinction in nouns but in fact it's more about inanimate vs animate nouns. 
I think for Norwegian it's about phonology, allegedly. But it's hard to tell. 
It has to be some phonological cues behind it tho as nonce words are automatically gendered by speakers who talk gendered languages as long as they follow the phonological rules of the language and they generally find patterns on like words with these consonants are often feminine, neuter, masculine etc. 
However in Norwegian, it appears that new words to a very large degree are masculine. Probably because of the merge between feminine and masculine nouns resulting in a huge section of the language's lexicon being masculine nouns, therefore this is applied to more words. 

oo I kinda did mostly just complaining cause new conjunctions rules I have to learn
Native speakers can mess up as much as 10% without it being significant linguistically lmao. No worries. 

makes me feel better thank you uwu its just new and blah and I feel like I have so much pressure being a non native speaker
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