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These are my two cents:

Like capitalism clearly sucks and it's fucked and poor countries are blamed for having "too many children, too many people in a place, etc." while consuming little of our total resource usage in the first place. But I still have to like the question: what is the goal we are aiming for? Is the goal to bring everyone up to western standards of wealth, etc.* because y es, we are too many then working inside today's systems. Then we are already "too many" because the world is already deteriorating bc of western overconsumption and capitalistic practices. But is that really the fault of the population or the fault of the way things are done? Like I don't feel like I am even close to educated enough on climate solutions to be able to discuss any realistic solution that has the capacity to deal with the diversity of the world. Or to say on how reducing x and x sectors would at a point tip a scale. I dunno know this.
(*I don't want to assume that all people want western standards but I hope it makes the point.)

I think that within at least ecology, there is a point known as the areas "bærekraftsevne" (how much tearing an area and population of x animal can take before the resources are depleted, sicknesses spread more easily and they start dying out.) It happens in all animal populations and when it gets too much, the population starts reducing until it can be sustained by the current resources in that area - if that so is by migrating or dying - and then it starts growing again when their needs are better met again. Like do we stretch it to a global point and a global economy, you will wonder: where is this space humans have not been? Where can we go if we destroy the whole world as it is, make it less habitable for the human-animal? People are already climate refugees. At a point, there will most likely be too little land and too much tearing on it at the same time. One of those things will most likely be humans. 
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Both sides are right and wrong: 

Over-population 
I wish I could write something smart like Nesta but I hate people and there are too many idiots please stop breeding I cannot take it anymore, the world doesn't need your stupid offspring it will only result in a pandemic worse than this to ensure that the amount of people decreases. Egoistic assholes. 

Capitalism 
Egoistic assholes again. 
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Theres too many pol
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Both of them are problems.
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Snusmumrikken wrote:
Both sides are right and wrong: 

Over-population 
I wish I could write something smart like Nesta but I hate people and there are too many idiots please stop breeding I cannot take it anymore, the world doesn't need your stupid offspring it will only result in a pandemic worse than this to ensure that the amount of people decreases. Egoistic assholes. 

Capitalism 
Egoistic assholes again. 
hmmmmm
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I guess I appreciate those who care about this because I don't... mainly because I'm aiming for billionaire status too. 
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MissLondon wrote:
I guess I appreciate those who care about this because I don't... mainly because I'm aiming for billionaire status too. 
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i agree w it
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i am very against claiming that 'overpopulation' is a problem or that there r 'too many pp' on the planet.  but overpopulation COULD b viewed as a symptom of a problem . i think what ppl dont rly consider is that poverty (such as the conditions that many ppl face in these countries where 'overpopulation' is seen as a problem i.e. in the global south) is something that causes families to hav more children in the first place. n in this way, capitalism can b seen as partially creating the 'problem' . poor ppl have lots of children for various reasons n eliminating the poverty aspect could reduce the number of children ppl have to have. but like i mean it is definitely fucked up arguing that 'poor ppl shouldnt have the right to have children' which is where the overpopulation argument essentially frequently leads. PLUS there is reason to believe that the sharp increase in the global population will like reach a......whats the word...plateau. like it will naturally level off soon anyway
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ugh i wish i could find this interesting article but impossible mission
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
i am very against claiming that 'overpopulation' is a problem or that there r 'too many pp' on the planet.  but overpopulation COULD b viewed as a symptom of a problem . i think what ppl dont rly consider is that poverty (such as the conditions that many ppl face in these countries where 'overpopulation' is seen as a problem i.e. in the global south) is something that causes families to hav more children in the first place. n in this way, capitalism can b seen as partially creating the 'problem' . poor ppl have lots of children for various reasons n eliminating the poverty aspect could reduce the number of children ppl have to have. but like i mean it is definitely fucked up arguing that 'poor ppl shouldnt have the right to have children' which is where the overpopulation argument essentially frequently leads. PLUS there is reason to believe that the sharp increase in the global population will like reach a......whats the word...plateau. like it will naturally level off soon anyway
literally what i was thinking but was too lazy to write jsjsjjddkks 
my brain was just like Poor country cus of colonialism n capitalism Poor access to education Poor acces to birth control Need many children to keep u alive when ur old
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Limbs wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Both sides are right and wrong: 

Over-population 
I wish I could write something smart like Nesta but I hate people and there are too many idiots please stop breeding I cannot take it anymore, the world doesn't need your stupid offspring it will only result in a pandemic worse than this to ensure that the amount of people decreases. Egoistic assholes. 

Capitalism 
Egoistic assholes again. 
hmmmmm
end humanity 2k21 
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diarrhea wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
i am very against claiming that 'overpopulation' is a problem or that there r 'too many pp' on the planet.  but overpopulation COULD b viewed as a symptom of a problem . i think what ppl dont rly consider is that poverty (such as the conditions that many ppl face in these countries where 'overpopulation' is seen as a problem i.e. in the global south) is something that causes families to hav more children in the first place. n in this way, capitalism can b seen as partially creating the 'problem' . poor ppl have lots of children for various reasons n eliminating the poverty aspect could reduce the number of children ppl have to have. but like i mean it is definitely fucked up arguing that 'poor ppl shouldnt have the right to have children' which is where the overpopulation argument essentially frequently leads. PLUS there is reason to believe that the sharp increase in the global population will like reach a......whats the word...plateau. like it will naturally level off soon anyway
literally what i was thinking but was too lazy to write jsjsjjddkks 
my brain was just like Poor country cus of colonialism n capitalism Poor access to education Poor acces to birth control Need many children to keep u alive when ur old
just realised i wrote 'i am very against claiming that... there r too many 'pp' in the world' right yes 
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
diarrhea wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
i am very against claiming that 'overpopulation' is a problem or that there r 'too many pp' on the planet.  but overpopulation COULD b viewed as a symptom of a problem . i think what ppl dont rly consider is that poverty (such as the conditions that many ppl face in these countries where 'overpopulation' is seen as a problem i.e. in the global south) is something that causes families to hav more children in the first place. n in this way, capitalism can b seen as partially creating the 'problem' . poor ppl have lots of children for various reasons n eliminating the poverty aspect could reduce the number of children ppl have to have. but like i mean it is definitely fucked up arguing that 'poor ppl shouldnt have the right to have children' which is where the overpopulation argument essentially frequently leads. PLUS there is reason to believe that the sharp increase in the global population will like reach a......whats the word...plateau. like it will naturally level off soon anyway
literally what i was thinking but was too lazy to write jsjsjjddkks 
my brain was just like Poor country cus of colonialism n capitalism Poor access to education Poor acces to birth control Need many children to keep u alive when ur old
just realised i wrote 'i am very against claiming that... there r too many 'pp' in the world' right yes 
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
i am very against claiming that 'overpopulation' is a problem or that there r 'too many pp' on the planet.  but overpopulation COULD b viewed as a symptom of a problem . i think what ppl dont rly consider is that poverty (such as the conditions that many ppl face in these countries where 'overpopulation' is seen as a problem i.e. in the global south) is something that causes families to hav more children in the first place. n in this way, capitalism can b seen as partially creating the 'problem' . poor ppl have lots of children for various reasons n eliminating the poverty aspect could reduce the number of children ppl have to have. but like i mean it is definitely fucked up arguing that 'poor ppl shouldnt have the right to have children' which is where the overpopulation argument essentially frequently leads. PLUS there is reason to believe that the sharp increase in the global population will like reach a......whats the word...plateau. like it will naturally level off soon anyway
I agree with everything but the last. 
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