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These are my two cents:
Like capitalism clearly sucks and it's fucked and poor countries are blamed for having "too many children, too many people in a place, etc." while consuming little of our total resource usage in the first place. But I still have to like the question: what is the goal we are aiming for? Is the goal to bring everyone up to western standards of wealth, etc.* because y es, we are too many then working inside today's systems. Then we are already "too many" because the world is already deteriorating bc of western overconsumption and capitalistic practices. But is that really the fault of the population or the fault of the way things are done? Like I don't feel like I am even close to educated enough on climate solutions to be able to discuss any realistic solution that has the capacity to deal with the diversity of the world. Or to say on how reducing x and x sectors would at a point tip a scale. I dunno know this.
(*I don't want to assume that all people want western standards but I hope it makes the point.)
I think that within at least ecology, there is a point known as the areas "bærekraftsevne" (how much tearing an area and population of x animal can take before the resources are depleted, sicknesses spread more easily and they start dying out.) It happens in all animal populations and when it gets too much, the population starts reducing until it can be sustained by the current resources in that area - if that so is by migrating or dying - and then it starts growing again when their needs are better met again. Like do we stretch it to a global point and a global economy, you will wonder: where is this space humans have not been? Where can we go if we destroy the whole world as it is, make it less habitable for the human-animal? People are already climate refugees. At a point, there will most likely be too little land and too much tearing on it at the same time. One of those things will most likely be humans.