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Limbs wrote:
thoughts?

promortalism is the philosophical position that for any sentient being it's always better to cease to exist, because of the suffering included in life and because absence of pleasure (from being dead) isn't a bad thing basically
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BunnyButts wrote:
nah Ive been numb before and being miserable is worth all the joy I have had in my life
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Limbs wrote:
oof this is gonna be a very one sided discussion though bcause of the rules lol. oh well
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remains wrote:
isnt that just called suicidal depression
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Melody wrote:
i'm... just gonna state i'm depressed and leave it at that
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remains wrote:
i get nihilism n wanting to die but dont project that on other people
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Limbs wrote:
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isnt that just called suicidal depression
its a little more in depth than that from what i can tell. here's a paper about it

jiwoonhwang.org/pro-mortalism/
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Pavlov wrote:
isnt that basically buddhism
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Limbs wrote:
bones wrote:
i get nihilism n wanting to die but dont project that on other people
i don't think this has much to do w/ nihilism tbh. i didn't read that whole paper yet but it talks more about hedonism and utilitarianism, tho idk anything about philosophy really
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Pavlov wrote:
but i agree i think humans are addicted to the pleassures theyve felt at some point to the point where they continue living no matter what like a drug addict with nothing to live for looking for his next high
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autism wrote:
life shouldn't be suffering and i personally don't suffer currently
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Limbs wrote:
autism wrote:
life shouldn't be suffering and i personally don't suffer currently
not all the time no but everyone is gonna feel pain or suffering at some point in their lives

promortalism argues that it's always better to not be alive because any amount of suffering is a negative, and absence of pleasure/happiness on the other hand is not a negative

like
being alive = suffering (bad) + pleasure (good)
being dead = no suffering (good) + no pleasure (not bad)
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autism wrote:
Limbs wrote:
autism wrote:
life shouldn't be suffering and i personally don't suffer currently
not all the time no but everyone is gonna feel pain or suffering at some point in their lives

promortalism argues that it's always better to not be alive because any amount of suffering is a negative, and absence of pleasure/happiness on the other hand is not a negative

like
being alive = suffering (bad) + pleasure (good)
being dead = no suffering (good) + no pleasure (not bad)
that makes no sense is the corpse supposed to be like oh yes no suffering this is good 
And if no suffering is good then no pleasure should be bad. That I would understand. I would also understand if they both would be not bad.
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BunnyButts wrote:
nah Ive been numb before and being miserable is worth all the joy I have had in my life
Date: 19-03-2021 07:25
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Bimbo wrote:
I feel like people are kinda starting to lose the plot when it comes to philosophy, dying so as to not suffer in life seems a little bit extreme to me
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just no
Date: 19-03-2021 08:24
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