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Okay, 
So I have an idea about wanting to make a blog written in norwegian (off-vp ofc) that focuses on the different things you can do for the environment and why this and that is "better." I wanted it to be in norwegian bc it's not rly a large sphere yet? Everything is practically in English, and I know that that's an issue for both younger and older gens (like my mom, aunt, etc.) who doesn't practice it regularly. I'm thinking about writing it anon, of course. Either on blogspot or maybe I dare to do a blogg.no even tho their changes are absolutely terrible

So I was wondering, first:
- do u guys know some Norwegian blogs\social media about it already? like organizations, private persons, etc.
- what would be most important to cover from your pov? like what would you specifically have the most use for in your life?
- and what are generally the most useful tips for everyday life?
- others?? 


I'm just trying to see if there's any use for it or I'm just gonna be like nah, I'm lazy

I JUST POST AWKARD NORWEGIAN SUSTAINABILITY THINGIES NOW
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me:  that's awkward
English: practically all the norwegian banks owns or did own shares in H&M, or have shares in other companies that exploit their workers.






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Nesta wrote:
me:  that's awkward

O_O
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uhyre wrote:
Nesta wrote:
me:  that's awkward

O_O
same
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looks like the bank for me does it not
www.cultura.no/
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Packages so attractive when they arrive in only paper and one strip of tape like god bless u guys
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this is also awkard
savetheseasons.no/
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i thought the blog sounded like a nice idea tho
i'm not norwegian but i'd read it
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provocative wrote:
i thought the blog sounded like a nice idea tho
i'm not norwegian but i'd read it
i'm still entertaining the idea tho
good to know someone thinks it sounds okay! thanks for telling me!
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YOU GUYS SHOULD SEE MY FACE OF ABSOLUTE DISBELIEF NOW.
I'm reading through Bergans site and all their sustainability stuff and guys... the spelling mistakes are one thing (english and norwegian pages). The forgotten link is another. But the third, and most important thing is, they are not giving me any information yet. I want the specifics, not the superficial like "it's our job to find the most sustainable textiles." Also, why are they hiding their stuff so far fucking down the tabs like s t o p. this is not made for a consumer to find or understand.

 
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BunnyButts wrote:
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i hate myself after what i just dug through 
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So.. I decided to go down the rabbit hole of Bergans of Norway today (still not done). I spotted their "Save the seasons" campaign with WWF Norway, so I thought I'd read more of it than last time because it felt like a joke last time.



And I'm still far from convinced.



If this is Bergans main sustainability facade, it's a bad one. If Bergans have sustainable practices at the bottom of their supply chain, then it is a fair addition considering it doesn't put any pressure on them as a textile producer - which we know the textile industry stand for up to 7% of GHGs annually (percentage disputed), and thus directly impact climate breakdown. As Norwegians, we also know that overconsumption of outdoor wear is very real and relevant.



Thus.. I started wandering to their page to figure what was the more likely scenario. (I always consider a brand unsustainable until I'm positively surprised.)



Well...



Besides the forgotten link to "Bergan's large repair initiative (link)," - which I was quite interested in since I know they are working on some good repair solutions, - and the use of "father" instead of "further" in the Save the seasons' campaign, practically at the top, I'm underwhelmed.



Finding what I'm looking for has first of all not been an easy experience for me as a consumer. Either to find or to understand. What you're "meant to understand" is only vague sayings, and I'm always looking for the specifics. Vague would make any brand trying to greenwash look good.



Bergans is known for their quality and expertise and it seems what they choose to focus on in their "greener agenda" as well. Their main line, which has been repeated more times than I care to know, is "we focus on high-quality products with a long life span." Which is good because longevity is the best consumer action. But alas they are not the consumer, so while it is good for the consumer to know they produce high-quality, I hope they ain't stopping there.








So this is what I'm generally looking for:



* which sustainable initiatives do they have? meaning, which materials do they use, which dyes do they use, how do they source their products, especially those from animals as well other natural materials (not counting oil\gass derivatives)?



* How are the worker's rights represented and secured in all stages of their supply chain?








**Summary of finds:**



Positive



- their repair and renting initiatives (they seem to have an extra focus on kids)



- they use *some* sustainable textiles like a bit of organic cotton (GOTS-certified) here and there. No percentage was given up, so my bet from the use of the plural. Everything from two types of garments into several.



- they use *some* recycled textiles like Repreve® (recycled plastic bottles), PrimaLoft® Silver Insulation Eco (no idea what it is made out of), recycled down (ReDown) and recycled wool.



- uses bluesign® certificated chemicals (for dyes, prints, and to adhere certain crucial properties to the item, e.g. water resistance, wind resistance). Seems to also collaborate with "kjemikaliegruppen" (swedish) to share info. and knowledge about how to deal with chemicals better.



- 3 of their fabrics in China has implemented courses to learn about their basic human rights in the workplace through QuizRR. h&m is a part of this too so i dunno how impactful it actually is


- no PFOA or PFOS since 2014.



- SpinDye® on their ski collection, Stranda. made from recycled water bottles w dyes that use less water, chemicals, and energy.








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- certified by "Miljøfyrtårnet." I don't know enough of this certification to say anything tbh. Certifications normally has me like better than none, but there's a lot of loopholes and vague stuff there too that makes things look better than they are.



- their repair "touring" that only tour during summer. why isn't repair stations available in every city with a bergans store when their focus is so desperately on designing clothing that is easy to repair and to make sure less is consumed firsthand by aiming for repair-longevity? if you live in Asker your in luck tho. They have a "Systua" which you can deliver in your stuff and get them repaired. you can also e-mail them to get spares to fix it yourself.



- their return program: they take all sorts of outdoor clothes, and you get a coupon code in return. what percentage that cupon code is is not stated, and it can only be used in a limited amount of physical stores (Oslo, ski, bergen, tromsø) + online. never on sales. I have seen them "redesign" some things, but that's mostly as promotional posts w their ambassadors or through tv-programs. There's no info about how much gets sent in actually gets reused. However, they take ALL brands of outdoor wear, but they only personally handle their own. The rest get sent to UFF (which I have yet to look into). However, we know that only a small percentage of what's sent to secondhand stores does actually get into the store. The rest is shipped away\trashed. (this must mean that we should have a fair good chance at finding good secondhand outdoor wear at UFF, right??) The bag you can "return" your items in is from 50% recycled plastic, but is also said to be "recycleable." As in, plastic recycling, which we all know is not doing well enough so yeah. that's a meh from me.



- bergansfuturelabs: so this seems to be a new project where they aim to make quite sustainable items with new technologies. nice experiment, but it's clearly here for the rich, and still not viable for any regular consumer.



- if you're vegan they use wool, down (RDS-Certified, how much you can certify deliberate animal suffering that is), merino wool. Their stance on what is necessary for their suppliers to meet when sourcing animal products is only in their code of conduct. Their code of conduct is made in collaboration with Etisk Handel (Ethical Trade).



(I'm not going down the entire CoC rabbit hole today so here's the link: https://www.bergans.com/no/baerekraft/verdikjede)



- they use ecodear® which is described as a plant-based polyester. Allegedly, it uses only 70% (instead of 100%) raw oil to produce. not really great at all tbh. The plant material is a by-product of the sugarcane industry (which we all know relies heavily on modern slavery, yes? but we do support waste reuse)

- member of STICA to help reduce the emission in their supply chain. hard to say exactly what their impact is there yet. seems very recent, like a year old as it only has 1 rapport yet.
www.sustainablefashionacademy.org/STICA



Bad



- mostly a lot of vague words that doesn't say anything unless you start *digging*



- forgot important links to repair



- not made to be found or understood by a consumer



- they don't use enough sustainable textiles



- uses PFAS

- FAR TOO LITTLE ABOUT WORKERS
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