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Olympus
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Olympus wrote:
when i logged in here like a year or two ago, and some of y'all were talking about members on gsm complaining about digital blackface and basically acting like gsm members were snowflakes for complaining about that, and then i feel like i'm sorta in enemy territory until i forget about it again 🧍🏾‍♀️

Olympus
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Olympus wrote:
like idk, maybe y'all have never experienced people cosplaying on these dress up sites, dressing with the darkest skin tone and then proceeding to post about the most harmful and stereotypical stuff known to man against POC.

idk but i can tell you it doesn't feel great!

i've never mentioned it or interacted with that thread (to my knowledge) bc why would y'all care but also...why should I! that shit left a bad taste in my mouth lmao.

Lamby
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Lamby wrote:
I think you should be free to use any skin tone that you want on a dressup site as long as it is not with the intention to make fun of any race in particular

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Olympus wrote:

Lamby wrote:
I think you should be free to use any skin tone that you want on a dressup site as long as it is not with the intention to make fun of any race in particular

I agree. I personally don't, but gsm has had many incidents of trolls doing stuff like that in 1.0 and 2.0. so it's a bigger issue there and to pretend like it's in general not a real thing that happens or worth being concerned about is weird (which is what was being alluded to in the topic i'm mentioning)

Lamby
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Lamby wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Lamby wrote:
I think you should be free to use any skin tone that you want on a dressup site as long as it is not with the intention to make fun of any race in particular

I agree. I personally don't, but gsm has had many incidents of trolls doing stuff like that in 1.0 and 2.0. so it's a bigger issue there and to pretend like it's in general not a real thing that happens or worth being concerned about is weird (which is what was being alluded to in the topic i'm mentioning)

I have no clue about any of that but to make looks using a different skin tone just to mock someone for said skintone is really sad

Olympus
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Olympus wrote:

Lamby wrote:

Olympus wrote:

Lamby wrote:
I think you should be free to use any skin tone that you want on a dressup site as long as it is not with the intention to make fun of any race in particular

I agree. I personally don't, but gsm has had many incidents of trolls doing stuff like that in 1.0 and 2.0. so it's a bigger issue there and to pretend like it's in general not a real thing that happens or worth being concerned about is weird (which is what was being alluded to in the topic i'm mentioning)

I have no clue about any of that but to make looks using a different skin tone just to mock someone for said skintone is really sad

I agree! Actually Stardoll also has trolls who do that often (or used to?)

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devilcake wrote:
We used to have a lot of spam trolls doing that here yes, I think because we’re a smaller community now it’s easier to see when a person is being disingenuous abt it, but a lot of us prolly lack the nuance of talking about it as like mostly white Northern Europeans lol, n it’s prolly smth a lot of us wouldn’t have noticed on og gsm…

I don’t remember what I said back then I was prolly a bit snarky about gsmrs knowing myself, but regardless of the topic a lot of the stuff going on gsm was rly performative, just like on ES… like idk about others but my issues with these sites are never really the level of wokeness cos im the most annoying woke cringe person ever, usually more abt how it’s approached n junk

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devilcake wrote:
I think I only remember miguels answer in those topics…. He always has the best answers always

Lamby
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Lamby wrote:

devilcake wrote:
We used to have a lot of spam trolls doing that here yes, I think because we’re a smaller community now it’s easier to see when a person is being disingenuous abt it, but a lot of us prolly lack the nuance of talking about it as like mostly white Northern Europeans lol, n it’s prolly smth a lot of us wouldn’t have noticed on og gsm…

I don’t remember what I said back then I was prolly a bit snarky about gsmrs knowing myself, but regardless of the topic a lot of the stuff going on gsm was rly performative, just like on ES… like idk about others but my issues with these sites are never really the level of wokeness cos im the most annoying woke cringe person ever, usually more abt how it’s approached n junk

Dang that sucks I'm glad those trolls are gone

Olympus
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Olympus wrote:

devilcake wrote:
I think I only remember miguels answer in those topics…. He always has the best answers always

Always love the Miguel takes that I have seen!

Olympus
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Olympus wrote:

devilcake wrote:
We used to have a lot of spam trolls doing that here yes, I think because we’re a smaller community now it’s easier to see when a person is being disingenuous abt it, but a lot of us prolly lack the nuance of talking about it as like mostly white Northern Europeans lol, n it’s prolly smth a lot of us wouldn’t have noticed on og gsm…

I don’t remember what I said back then I was prolly a bit snarky about gsmrs knowing myself, but regardless of the topic a lot of the stuff going on gsm was rly performative, just like on ES… like idk about others but my issues with these sites are never really the level of wokeness cos im the most annoying woke cringe person ever, usually more abt how it’s approached n junk

lacking nuance and specifics is fine, I think, but downplaying something because you aren't directly affected by it, it looks trivial to you and then wrapping it up with "haha gsm people are so sensitive" is weird lmao

the pro of VP being small is much more considerate interaction and the bots not being trolls

everyone here is snarky about gsm people lmao, but the funny thing is we are a hair away from being just like them at all times, there's just less chances for anyone to show it.

the only thing that saves IS it being a small community here and people generally are willing to learn, i think?

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Maxwell wrote:
commentin to read for later Im too far gone to read but I want to read *fists my hands*
but I caught enough to kno important stuff olympus! keep it comin!

Olympus
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Olympus wrote:

Maxwell wrote:
commentin to read for later Im too far gone to read but I want to read *fists my hands*
but I caught enough to kno important stuff olympus! keep it comin!

lol! i don't really have too much to say besides we have to really pay attention to what we're saying sometimes and not think we're one of the better ones just because we're not "them"

like idk if the original intent of the topic i had seen was more haha i hate gsm or haha people are so sensitive and then proceeding to use something that is actually something 1. people have to deal with and 2. is actually harmful and something to push against, as some form of proof for that. especially when there is actually a lot to drag gsm people for lol.

it just made me uncomfortable to see as a black woman, on a dress up site where there might only be like 1-3 max users who are also black, because it just kind of reeks of "okay, this thing that people do and often use to troll poc is not worth worrying about because it's never hurt MY feelings, ugh there's real things going on in the world" it's like if i was someone new and i saw that i would have logged right tf out lmao.

but there is an air of we're better than gsm people here and while that could be true in we don't have as much consistent negativity going on...we aren't better just because we don't have people complaining about *checks notes* their personhood, how they are getting treated, and other things that may only affect a smaller group of marginalized people, ya know?