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The SMT codes are bad for VPs economy
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Cosmos wrote:
The sol sets were already available on Dutch server so they couldn't have been shop sets 
why not? are sets only allowed to be in 1 site's shop?
Date: 14-02-2017 01:04
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why being so negative? BE HAPPY!
Date: 14-02-2017 01:06
Grim
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Grim wrote:
Elisabeth wrote:
Grim wrote:
Hmm, that's an interesting argument.

I always thought the intention of the codes was to make sure that everyone who can't buy or obtain credits could still have nice clothes and have fun in the game - something that Kaj went on about a lot during the credit set update.

Putting things like Solovey's sets in the shop would funnel cr back into the website, but usually when something like that goes up it's for a ton of cr or it's LE and the same people tend to grab it first. A lot of people would leave because they can't afford anything.

I also don't think it will help with the ridiculous prices people offer for some things - the Solovey wings alone are going to be expensive. Imagine if they were really LE and you could only get them in the shop for cr. Prices would skyrocket.
I never said they had to be LE items, just that it'd be nice if they were sold in the shops instead.

I mean let's face it some codes are ugly af but some are hella nice. And all shop items are either ugly af or average. So not a lot being spend there.

Oh no, that wasn't directed at you. That's my experience with vp - when the fashion shop got that big update, a Solovey went up for promotion points only and people went crazy trying to buy them so they could resell them for cr. The hair alone was like six hundred cr for a while. When they put nice sets in the mp, they (Kaj? Kim? both?) have a tendency to make it limited and for a price only a select few can afford.

I agree that some sets are nicer than others, and that there needs to be nicer shop items with the shop updated more frequently. That would definitely raise the quality of vp and encourage users to stay.

But I think a lot of the designers send their designs to the teams to use as codes though, don't they? Because the designs see the light of day faster than if they went to Kim/Kaj to go in the shop. That's really the fault of Kaj, not SMT or ET or their code bombs.
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Date: 14-02-2017 01:07
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Tanara wrote:
why being so negative? BE HAPPY!
i posted a statement and asked agree or disagree. how is that negative tell me pls
Date: 14-02-2017 01:07
Beholder
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beholder wrote:
Grim wrote:
Elisabeth wrote:
Grim wrote:
Hmm, that's an interesting argument.

I always thought the intention of the codes was to make sure that everyone who can't buy or obtain credits could still have nice clothes and have fun in the game - something that Kaj went on about a lot during the credit set update.

Putting things like Solovey's sets in the shop would funnel cr back into the website, but usually when something like that goes up it's for a ton of cr or it's LE and the same people tend to grab it first. A lot of people would leave because they can't afford anything.

I also don't think it will help with the ridiculous prices people offer for some things - the Solovey wings alone are going to be expensive. Imagine if they were really LE and you could only get them in the shop for cr. Prices would skyrocket.
I never said they had to be LE items, just that it'd be nice if they were sold in the shops instead.

I mean let's face it some codes are ugly af but some are hella nice. And all shop items are either ugly af or average. So not a lot being spend there.

Oh no, that wasn't directed at you. That's my experience with vp - when the fashion shop got that big update, a Solovey went up for promotion points only and people went crazy trying to buy them so they could resell them for cr. The hair alone was like six hundred cr for a while. When they put nice sets in the mp, they (Kaj? Kim? both?) have a tendency to make it limited and for a price only a select few can afford.

I agree that some sets are nicer than others, and that there needs to be nicer shop items with the shop updated more frequently. That would definitely raise the quality of vp and encourage users to stay.

But I think a lot of the designers send their designs to the teams to use as codes though, don't they? Because the designs see the light of day faster than if they went to Kim/Kaj to go in the shop. That's really the fault of Kaj, not SMT or ET or their code bombs.
yeah...
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Date: 14-02-2017 01:08
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Grim wrote:
Elisabeth wrote:
Grim wrote:
Hmm, that's an interesting argument.

I always thought the intention of the codes was to make sure that everyone who can't buy or obtain credits could still have nice clothes and have fun in the game - something that Kaj went on about a lot during the credit set update.

Putting things like Solovey's sets in the shop would funnel cr back into the website, but usually when something like that goes up it's for a ton of cr or it's LE and the same people tend to grab it first. A lot of people would leave because they can't afford anything.

I also don't think it will help with the ridiculous prices people offer for some things - the Solovey wings alone are going to be expensive. Imagine if they were really LE and you could only get them in the shop for cr. Prices would skyrocket.
I never said they had to be LE items, just that it'd be nice if they were sold in the shops instead.

I mean let's face it some codes are ugly af but some are hella nice. And all shop items are either ugly af or average. So not a lot being spend there.

Oh no, that wasn't directed at you. That's my experience with vp - when the fashion shop got that big update, a Solovey went up for promotion points only and people went crazy trying to buy them so they could resell them for cr. The hair alone was like six hundred cr for a while. When they put nice sets in the mp, they (Kaj? Kim? both?) have a tendency to make it limited and for a price only a select few can afford.

I agree that some sets are nicer than others, and that there needs to be nicer shop items with the shop updated more frequently. That would definitely raise the quality of vp and encourage users to stay.

But I think a lot of the designers send their designs to the teams to use as codes though, don't they? Because the designs see the light of day faster than if they went to Kim/Kaj to go in the shop. That's really the fault of Kaj, not SMT or ET or their code bombs.
true, they should quit doing this because i do think most of the same ppl get LE shop sets. also with shop updates always being at the same time. 

i mean smt and et (mostly smt tho) could consider the consequences of their code bombs and think twice and maybe not put so many in. but that'd mean putting communal interest above personal interest and i guess that's hard for most people, let alone young people
Date: 14-02-2017 01:09
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Xenya wrote:
No i dont agree
I like being spoiled by the smt
I think my making them unlimited, it gives everyone a chance to obtain them and enjoy them. Why should our experience be limited by the amount of cr and and pd we have? 
It may not be as good for buisness however, what is buisness if the people you serve arent happy? We are the ones who support kaj and the admins. We have given them this power and their income. We want to be looked after and our needs satisfied. Theres plenty of solvis designs, one or two given away wont make a huge difference.
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Date: 14-02-2017 01:12
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Xenya wrote:
Tanara wrote:
why being so negative? BE HAPPY!
^^^
This. 
I can see where youre coming from
But if the sets were in the shops, were le or a comp item, the argument for unfairness would be stronger. 
Be happy with what youre given. Honestly there's no point complaining because there's nothing to complain about. 

Im so greatful for the smt teams for providing us with all this. Its like christmas all over again
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Date: 14-02-2017 01:15
INFECTIOUS
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INFECTIOUS wrote:
i mean i'm a little sad because i accidently used the unlimited female angel thing on my male account so now i cant have wings
but none of these so far have been too limited
i'm just worried that the final ones might be super limited and cost a lot and be completely impossible to obtain for users like me
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Date: 14-02-2017 01:16
Gothgirl
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gothgirl wrote:
i dont care
just let this hellsite die already
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Date: 14-02-2017 01:17
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Xenya wrote:
INFECTIOUS wrote:
i mean i'm a little sad because i accidently used the unlimited female angel thing on my male account so now i cant have wings
but none of these so far have been too limited
i'm just worried that the final ones might be super limited and cost a lot and be completely impossible to obtain for users like me
Do you have data on your phone?  You can claim it through that 
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Date: 14-02-2017 01:17
Cosmos
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Cosmos wrote:
Elisabeth wrote:
Cosmos wrote:
The sol sets were already available on Dutch server so they couldn't have been shop sets 
why not? are sets only allowed to be in 1 site's shop?
Shop sets are generally the same on all server are they not?
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Date: 14-02-2017 01:17
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wrote:
INFECTIOUS wrote:
i mean i'm a little sad because i accidently used the unlimited female angel thing on my male account so now i cant have wings
but none of these so far have been too limited
i'm just worried that the final ones might be super limited and cost a lot and be completely impossible to obtain for users like me
karma's a bitch

but once again whether they're LE or not is not really relevant for the argument i provided but anyhow.......
Date: 14-02-2017 01:18
INFECTIOUS
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INFECTIOUS wrote:
Xenya wrote:
INFECTIOUS wrote:
i mean i'm a little sad because i accidently used the unlimited female angel thing on my male account so now i cant have wings
but none of these so far have been too limited
i'm just worried that the final ones might be super limited and cost a lot and be completely impossible to obtain for users like me
Do you have data on your phone?  You can claim it through that 
ahh thank you !!!
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Date: 14-02-2017 01:19
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beholder wrote:
i think we need more outfits in the shops, but i understand handing out lots of codes at times like these because holiday 
plus the boot camps are pumping out a lot ...
^ a lot considering its the ET that is the team allowed to give out this many codes.


Dont get me wrong, its a nice gift and im grateful... But why so much? Is seeing which team can give out the most prizes part of this bootcamp?
Date: 14-02-2017 01:23
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