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Olympus wrote:
if the 12 euro package had 9 tokens, would you be more likely to buy it and/or more often?
1 euro is 6 times the value of the money currency of my country, so if I had a job I would say yes, like when I was more active I supported VP every month buying the 24 euro package

But this make more profitable buy two times the 12 euro package instead to buy the 24 euro package... 

Idk how it would affect VP economy tbh
Olympus
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Solar wrote:
Olympus wrote:
Solar wrote:
i mean, i think that's true as well!! i think it just depends on how many ppl are buying the 48 package and if that's enough to keep the site going - if it is, i don't think anyone will change the 'token balancing' because why risk it youknow... 
nn i do think that tokens do already address that specific MCM issue... like it really is just a saving up thing right? with MCM it was in no way possible to buy the most expensive set if you didnt have the money to spare that month. with tokens it already is possible to save them up to buy a set you really want
but see does the concept of saving up for a theoretical future set you MIGHT end up wanting make sense?
the 7 token sets in the shop right now, i would guaranteed buy if the price made more sense, if i only needed to spend 7-9 euros(10-14 dollars my currency) to get the one set i want, i would do that immediately. 

not seeing anything i want to buy, doesn't entice me personally, to want to just buy a package anyway so i can save up for a possible really good set. to me, when money in this economy is so precious everything needs to make sense 

and i guess that actually leans into my other thread asking for another tokens only package. the price also is what it is because it's linked with the credits everyone is allegedly already having a hard time spending.

would it be accessible to permanently have 2 packages that are tokens only? or in the middle or end of the month have a token only package that pops up? 

i mean to me it does  i also buy the 48eu package to save up for future sets, not to buy everything right now 
n i really do get what you're saying!! lowk i think this might be an issue with having a server that is international, real money packages will be more expensive for some users because there's no way to balance it properly when trying to account for every conversion rate 

& that is completely fine, but also a personal choice, right? because i do believe that was also the intention of the token system introduction, to be able to save them up and spend them another time (which was impossible with MCM)

a token only package hmmm... i do think credits are still very much spendable like i could empty my savings rn if i wanted to hh 
for me it feels like there's a lot of ppl who don't have that many cr at all, like i try selling token sets sometimes but ppl mostly bid like 1k cr and when a set is 7 tokens i'd want more for it than that 
but ig that that doesn't really matter tooo much for a token only package, they did have one to celebrate the token system made official, maybe that was a trial that didn't go so well? idk we can only guess ... 
I think in terms of instant gratification, people want to see what they're "buying" so to speak and i can't confirm but i feel like people want to have some left over after buying something, not just have bought some . 
but again i can't confirm and maybe someone can lmk 

Yeah, i'm not sure how it went either! I also agree people don't have much cr and that maybe a few have a lot of cr 
ad0xa
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I've seen the updated design page thing... though I haven't fully explored it. 
But what have the conversations around fully open submission been? Maybe that's just what doll sites need now a days...  but I guess it's hard to compete with updated systems that are easier to use. Maybe it's just a matter of holding out until you get that big update that makes the site easier to use? 

Kinda thinking out loud... 
Olympus
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ad0xa wrote:
I've seen the updated design page thing... though I haven't fully explored it. 
But what have the conversations around fully open submission been? Maybe that's just what doll sites need now a days...  but I guess it's hard to compete with updated systems that are easier to use. Maybe it's just a matter of holding out until you get that big update that makes the site easier to use? 

Kinda thinking out loud... 
Yeah, i think when the update happens it will quell a lot of concerns 
ad0xa
World Famous



Olympus wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
I've seen the updated design page thing... though I haven't fully explored it. 
But what have the conversations around fully open submission been? Maybe that's just what doll sites need now a days...  but I guess it's hard to compete with updated systems that are easier to use. Maybe it's just a matter of holding out until you get that big update that makes the site easier to use? 

Kinda thinking out loud... 
Yeah, i think when the update happens it will quell a lot of concerns 
Will there be a app/phone version then too? 
Olympus
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BlackCatGirl1 wrote:
Olympus wrote:
if the 12 euro package had 9 tokens, would you be more likely to buy it and/or more often?
1 euro is 6 times the value of the money currency of my country, so if I had a job I would say yes, like when I was more active I supported VP every month buying the 24 euro package

But this make more profitable buy two times the 12 euro package instead to buy the 24 euro package... 

Idk how it would affect VP economy tbh
also unsure how it would affect it, like i need to see the math fr 
talent
Queen of Queens



ad0xa wrote:
Olympus wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
I've seen the updated design page thing... though I haven't fully explored it. 
But what have the conversations around fully open submission been? Maybe that's just what doll sites need now a days...  but I guess it's hard to compete with updated systems that are easier to use. Maybe it's just a matter of holding out until you get that big update that makes the site easier to use? 

Kinda thinking out loud... 
Yeah, i think when the update happens it will quell a lot of concerns 
Will there be a app/phone version then too? 
that is the plan yes
ad0xa
World Famous



talent wrote:
ad0xa wrote:
Olympus wrote:
Yeah, i think when the update happens it will quell a lot of concerns 
Will there be a app/phone version then too? 
that is the plan yes
nice nice. Well for me it doesn't matter bc I don't use my phone for stuff like this XD but I think it's a smart move. 
Solar
International Star



talent wrote:
Solar wrote:
Olympus wrote:
It started at the 2euro! 
yes, iirc there isn't even always that 1 token item 
i do agree that at least one thing should be buyable every month even if you 'just' buy the 2eu package !! 
its really based on what we've got available  we try to fill it but sadly as we lose members that also means designers
yeah that's a tough one 
Private
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Olympus wrote:
BlackCatGirl1 wrote:
Olympus wrote:
if the 12 euro package had 9 tokens, would you be more likely to buy it and/or more often?
1 euro is 6 times the value of the money currency of my country, so if I had a job I would say yes, like when I was more active I supported VP every month buying the 24 euro package

But this make more profitable buy two times the 12 euro package instead to buy the 24 euro package... 

Idk how it would affect VP economy tbh
also unsure how it would affect it, like i need to see the math fr 
MAYBE, this is a this is an assumption, people who wants to spends less but get more sets will feel inclinated to try
But I'm not an economist and I can't give 100% sure 

If this is completely wrong, please disregard what I just said.
ad0xa
World Famous



Can't you give out old sets as token sets? There should be a way to see what items/sets are basically dead on vp... like... no active player has any part of it ect?  Or old sets that you get for a time only and then they are taken away again? I guess that would mean you'd need code for it tho... 

But I'm sure people who left vp won't care. And even old players might not care if it means vp stays alive? 
Solar
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ad0xa wrote:
Can't you give out old sets as token sets? There should be a way to see what items/sets are basically dead on vp... like... no active player has any part of it ect?  Or old sets that you get for a time only and then they are taken away again? I guess that would mean you'd need code for it tho... 

But I'm sure people who left vp won't care. And even old players might not care if it means vp stays alive? 
there is an overview of 'dead' items!! those items have been returning, either as token items or in auctions that were hosted +- a year ago

there was actually a big commotion about the idea of lower ig items returning that are still in active ppls warderobes, because they might have paid thousands of credits for them way back when and the worth of them would plummet if they returned
Solar
International Star



ad0xa wrote:
I've seen the updated design page thing... though I haven't fully explored it. 
But what have the conversations around fully open submission been? Maybe that's just what doll sites need now a days...  but I guess it's hard to compete with updated systems that are easier to use. Maybe it's just a matter of holding out until you get that big update that makes the site easier to use? 

Kinda thinking out loud... 
also not sure if this is what you mean, but anyone is free to use the design uploader, not just badged designers! there's just no certainty of designs being accepted right away but our designteam is an amazing help with feedback to ensure designing is accessible for all players wanting to design (: 

+ when the design uploader doesn't work for players who are mobile-based, they can send in their designs to the designteam to get them accepted + uploaded manually! 
Private
Princess of Pop



Olympus wrote:
Limited wrote:
no, since i dont support vp with money :3 
are there conditions under which you would support vp with money?
i've supported vp with way too much money back in the days which should be more than enough, it was the highest amount each month.
MissLondon
Queen of Queens



No, but I’d spend more if 
token only packs were an option 

I know this is off topic
but it would be nice if there was an option 
to purchase token backgrounds separately 
instead of the entire set…wishful thinking tho lol
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