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Claire wrote:

Deimos wrote:

Claire wrote:
Ok I read almost all of this and I think chandelier and hypoxia are too emotional to be moderators. If y'all let emotion cloud your judgment you have no business in a position of authority.

TOTALLY THIS

no offense, i don't know them personally and have nothing against them as people/users but if you're this emotional then this is not the job for you

Honestly. They should step down if they're so "overwhelmed"

Ad0xa
World Famous

ad0xa wrote:

Shadowjess wrote:

ad0xa wrote:

Fiskarna wrote:
respect everyone until they give you a reason not to

Yeah. but that's a bit vague tho XD
What if the reson is they don't like pepsi max ???

Like, why wouldn't you love pepsi max or at least tolerate it. ?!?! I DON'T GET PEOPLE WHO HATE IT SO MUCH?!

I'm drinking it right now.

me too

Private
World Famous

Claire wrote:

ad0xa wrote:

Shadowjess wrote:

ad0xa wrote:
Yeah. but that's a bit vague tho XD
What if the reson is they don't like pepsi max ???

Like, why wouldn't you love pepsi max or at least tolerate it. ?!?! I DON'T GET PEOPLE WHO HATE IT SO MUCH?!

I'm drinking it right now.

me too

Love your outfit today.

Ad0xa
World Famous

ad0xa wrote:

Claire wrote:

ad0xa wrote:

Shadowjess wrote:
I'm drinking it right now.

me too

Love your outfit today.

Thank you! you're gorgeous too btw

MissLondon
Queen of Queens

MissLondon wrote:

Obliviate wrote:
I'm sorry but this is an completly outrageous comment to come from a moderator. If this is what you think, then in my opinion you aren't appropriate to be a moderator. I can't seriously believe this can come from a current mod..

"One mod in particular was very mean, Chandelier, who wanted to be a child psychologist asked if she would be bad at her dream job because she couldn't handle a person like Tarrantthightop coming in. She would hand her off to someone else. Yes you'd be bad at your job if you turned away someone who is looking for help because you don't think their problems matter."

Uhhh, DOCTORS do it pretty frequently, does that mean they're "bad" at their jobs too? Lol
I think not.

Sorry, couldn't resist since that comparison/logic made no sense.

Obliviate
Queen of Pop

Obliviate wrote:

RoloLolo wrote:

Obliviate wrote:
I'm sorry but this is an completly outrageous comment to come from a moderator. If this is what you think, then in my opinion you aren't appropriate to be a moderator. I can't seriously believe this can come from a current mod..

"One mod in particular was very mean, Chandelier, who wanted to be a child psychologist asked if she would be bad at her dream job because she couldn't handle a person like Tarrantthightop coming in. She would hand her off to someone else. Yes you'd be bad at your job if you turned away someone who is looking for help because you don't think their problems matter."

Uhhh, DOCTORS do it pretty frequently, does that mean they're "bad" at their jobs too? Lol
I think not.

Sorry, couldn't resist since that comparison/logic made no sense.

So doctors hand their patients off to another doctor when they don't feel like facing them?
And rather because moderators are supposed to be role models to the community.
Do you find that behaviour appropriate?

Krystle
Popstar

Krystle wrote:
Even after seeing the document some of the information on this thread by the mods was irrelevant and some issues/ the real issues were not even addressed. (some of the things might have been talked about but because there was so much to read I could've forgotten after reading it. In such a case I apologize)
There was a lot on that document and I read it all but then closed it on my phone thinking I'd open it later on my laptop but I can't do that now due to permission needed so I don't remember everything I wanted to say.
But anyways..

Your own screenshot (this was on the first page under "Zoe's pictures", the first one) shows how you allowed your personal friendship with someone come in the way of your duties.
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=28qud8z&s=9#.WPCDhyhXDIU
"...I stuck up for you without even asking because that's what friends do."
How am I to feel safe on this site because if a mod can stick up for her friend without looking into the situation she could also ban someone without a good reason due to personal dislike.

It was also mentioned that you let Eli go on the modsquad account while she was not a mod which shows how you favor your friends. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't let someone else do that, would you?

The rest of the things are in general to the old mods (including hypoxic). You guys kept saying we only know one side of the story, so what's your say in these things that were mentioned in the document?
(I always confuse you with savage but I assume you're the older mod while savage is newer)
1. Biased - You let shadowjess get away with sharing accounts while other users receive warnings and time-outs for the same.
(I'm not blindly going by what was said in the document, I personally remember seeing them post a few times on the forums that they would claim a code or have claimed it for Draizor and if I remember correctly about buying shop updates on that account too)
Update: proof from heathens

2. I don't remember whether this was mentioned in the document or not but since this is a general discussion might as well bring this up. When the mod bootcamp was announced and people questioned why Tezzica got the badge before the others someone mentioned how you guys would ask her for help with mod issues even when she was not a mod. Why are you still a mod if you're not capable of solving problems and need others (non-mods) to help you out?

As I said before there was a lot more that I can't remember and this post is already too long so I'l end it here. Hoping to get some answers from you guys.

Callum
World Famous

callum wrote:

Krystle wrote:
Even after seeing the document some of the information on this thread by the mods were irrelevant and some issues/ the real issues were not even addressed. (some of the things might have been talked about but because there was so much to read I could've forgotten after reading it. In such a case I apologize)
There was a lot on that document and I read it all but then closed it on my phone thinking I'd open it later on my laptop but I can't do that now due to permission needed so I don't remember everything I wanted to say.
But anyways..

@Hypoxic
Your own screenshot (this was on the first page under "Zoe's pictures", the first one) shows how you allowed your personal friendship with someone come in the way of your duties.
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=28qud8z&s=9#.WPCDhyhXDIU
"...I stuck up for you without even asking because that's what friends do."
How am I to feel safe on this site because if a mod can stick up for her friend without looking into the situation she could also ban someone without a good reason due to personal dislike.

It was also mentioned that you let Eli go on the modsquad account while she was not a mod which shows how you favor your friends. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't let someone else do that, would you?

The rest of the things are in general to the old mods (including hypoxic). You guys kept saying we only know one side of the story, so what's your say in these things that were mentioned in the document?
@Chandelier @legohouse (I always confuse you with savage but I assume you're the older mod while savage is newer)
1. Biased - You let shadowjess get away with sharing accounts while other users receive warnings and time-outs for the same.
(I'm not blindly going by what was said in the document, I personally remember seeing them post a few times on the forums that they would claim a code or have claimed it for Draizor and if I remember correctly about buying shop updates on that account too)

2. I don't remember whether this was mentioned in the document or not but since this is a general discussion might as well bring this up. When the mod bootcamp was announced and people questioned why Tezzica got the badge before the others someone mentioned how you guys would ask her for help with mod issues even when she was not a mod. Why are you still a mod if you're not capable of solving problems and need others (non-mods) to help you out?

As I said before there was a lot more that I can't remember and this post is already too long so I'l end it here. Hoping to get some answers from you guys.

Figured I'd help by providing you with a screenshot:

Private
Popstar

Horcrux wrote:

thought I'd reply quickly but when I get a chance to write it out I'll cover your questions better.
In regards to Ali, yes I openly admit to putting friendship first in the moment. Based off of the fiasco that occurred around Legohouse's account (which I think was either one or two days prior). What that defence was based off of was an account linked to Ali's. Which someone on the first page has the screenshot of when Ali claimed to have been hacked. After that however I began to keep a closer eye and then came the second time she was linked to a leaker account which was when I confronted her. (Sabrina also provided proof of another connection on the day I confronted her as I didn't have it screenshotted).

As for Eli, I didn't allow her on the mod account. She came to me telling me that she'd accessed it and felt kinda bad or said something along the lines of "I know I shouldn't of". I said sonwthing like it's okay did you do anything on it? And don't reaccess it. That same day the account details were changed and she wasn't allowed back on. So no one let her use it, she did so behind our backs and then came forward to me about using it. At that point I also let the others know.

(as for your bracketed part I'll hopefully make sense of things when I can type it all out for you all but hope that helps for now)

im not entirely sure how you get the impression I'm too overwhelmed or emotional for this role. If you are basing it off of my current situation i can happily explain why my dads health is currently consuming a lot of my time (& considering my final exams are in two weeks as well).

MissLondon
Queen of Queens

MissLondon wrote:

Obliviate wrote:

RoloLolo wrote:

Obliviate wrote:
I'm sorry but this is an completly outrageous comment to come from a moderator. If this is what you think, then in my opinion you aren't appropriate to be a moderator. I can't seriously believe this can come from a current mod..

"One mod in particular was very mean, Chandelier, who wanted to be a child psychologist asked if she would be bad at her dream job because she couldn't handle a person like Tarrantthightop coming in. She would hand her off to someone else. Yes you'd be bad at your job if you turned away someone who is looking for help because you don't think their problems matter."

Uhhh, DOCTORS do it pretty frequently, does that mean they're "bad" at their jobs too? Lol
I think not.

Sorry, couldn't resist since that comparison/logic made no sense.

So doctors hand their patients off to another doctor when they don't feel like facing them?
And rather because moderators are supposed to be role models to the community.
Do you find that behaviour appropriate?

"When they don't feel like facing them"? No, more like when the pt isn't receptive to that particular physician/treatment.

As for "appropriate behaviour", who on vp has a pristine record and adheres to each and every rule? Who on here hasn't been disrespectful at least once...and not only to each other, but to Kaj and Kim as well...especially the latter.
I said that I wouldn't get involved in this mess because it's hypocrisy at it's finest.
People are quick to throw accusations, when in all honesty they're guilty of doing the same thing. Have none been "emotional" in this thread? I can recall people being triggered over certain threads, getting upset over being thrown out of record labels for "leaking personal info", being targeted for "being racist, homophobic" etc. But you know, we'll just gloss over those things cause we're all saintly and the mods are the only ones wrong here lol. The irony tho, these same people went to the same mods who make vp so "unsafe". People are asking Kim to weigh in, totally forgetting how many times they've crticised her and Kaj..totally forgetting the comments and memes calling him a pedophile and we were "unsafe" from his grasp.
As for whatever mods said about anyone here, seems like tit for tat to me. So they "shit talked" about people who've done pretty much the same since I've been here. Seems like they evened the score in my book.

I could go on but as I've said before, I'm done. This shit is pointless and at the end of the day, I can't get caught up over shit that doesn't affect me in real life, nor people I'll never meet.

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Myrcella wrote:

ad0xa wrote:
I don't think anyone is 100% right in this "fight" any more, maybe from the start it was more one sided but??? I dunnu???. and that's exactly why I think the best course of action is to move on and apologize forgive forget.

!!!

Krystle
Popstar

Krystle wrote:

heathens wrote:

Krystle wrote:
X

Figured I'd help by providing you with a screenshot:

wow thank you. I'll add it to the post now

@hypoxic I'll come back to you later when I can

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Hypoxic wrote:
@Krystle
thought I'd reply quickly but when I get a chance to write it out I'll cover your questions better.
In regards to Ali, yes I openly admit to putting friendship first in the moment. Based off of the fiasco that occurred around Legohouse's account (which I think was either one or two days prior). What that defence was based off of was an account linked to Ali's. Which someone on the first page has the screenshot of when Ali claimed to have been hacked. After that however I began to keep a closer eye and then came the second time she was linked to a leaker account which was when I confronted her. (Sabrina also provided proof of another connection on the day I confronted her as I didn't have it screenshotted).

As for Eli, I didn't allow her on the mod account. She came to me telling me that she'd accessed it and felt kinda bad or said something along the lines of "I know I shouldn't of". I said sonwthing like it's okay did you do anything on it? And don't reaccess it. That same day the account details were changed and she wasn't allowed back on. So no one let her use it, she did so behind our backs and then came forward to me about using it. At that point I also let the others know.

(as for your bracketed part I'll hopefully make sense of things when I can type it all out for you all but hope that helps for now)

@Claire
im not entirely sure how you get the impression I'm too overwhelmed or emotional for this role. If you are basing it off of my current situation i can happily explain why my dads health is currently consuming a lot of my time (& considering my final exams are in two weeks as well).

first of all, you may have forgotten to answer this part,
"How am I to feel safe on this site because if a mod can stick up for her friend without looking into the situation she could also ban someone without a good reason due to personal dislike."

Secondly, shouldn't you apologize for being biased, I feel like I need to see some commitment to be able to move past this since I get the feeling like you don't take it especially serious. This is literally what the community complains about.

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ad0xa wrote:

Josten wrote:
A message from Solitude abt the release of the document:
The mods nor ShadowJess has asked any of us who have made the document whether we was okay with it being released. There are reasons why we never released it to the public in the first place. It was meant to be something we could show to Kim to make her understand, not used as something so you guys can defend yourself in the public. I think it's distasteful that you do this without asking any of us (as far as I'm concerned). Next time don't make it all about you when there were people spending many days and hours on putting together this document. - Solitude

You can't really comment on peoples behavior and then get angry when they respond tho.... they have the right to defend themselves as much as anyone else?

Sorry solitude but this is a load of rubbish
I doubt that it was written just for kim, who is barely involved in VP, to read

Callum
World Famous

callum wrote:

Felicity wrote:

ad0xa wrote:

Josten wrote:
A message from Solitude abt the release of the document:
The mods nor ShadowJess has asked any of us who have made the document whether we was okay with it being released. There are reasons why we never released it to the public in the first place. It was meant to be something we could show to Kim to make her understand, not used as something so you guys can defend yourself in the public. I think it's distasteful that you do this without asking any of us (as far as I'm concerned). Next time don't make it all about you when there were people spending many days and hours on putting together this document. - Solitude

You can't really comment on peoples behavior and then get angry when they respond tho.... they have the right to defend themselves as much as anyone else?

Sorry solitude but this is a load of rubbish
I doubt that it was written just for kim, who is barely involved in VP, to read

.. .... . . then why did they work it on it to send it to kim to make a change
how is she barely involved in vp she's the owner