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FT: US presidential election 2020
December
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December wrote:
kaysha wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
I MEANT FOR THE LONG TERM FUTURE
Worse for the long term future when he's literally the only one of those two  believing in climate change 
true af
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:23
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
anytime this gets bumped I panic
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:24
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
kaysha wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
I MEANT FOR THE LONG TERM FUTURE
Worse for the long term future when he's literally the only one of those two  believing in climate change 
in my opinion climate change 100000% isnt gonna get solved unless we dismantle capitalism n neither seems to b willing to do that lol
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:24
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
me *says i dont wanna get into this debate rn n does it anyway even tho i am in no fit state to b attempting to explain my opinions n views*
I'd love to discuss it because I slightly share the same view as you but idk if it's because of the same things so I dare not speak on it lmao 
plzzzzzz i wanna hear
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:25
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wug wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
me *says i dont wanna get into this debate rn n does it anyway even tho i am in no fit state to b attempting to explain my opinions n views*
I'd love to discuss it because I slightly share the same view as you but idk if it's because of the same things so I dare not speak on it lmao 
Tell us!!
Postponing an inevitable civil war will for a number of reasons be more harmful than just doing it now. The split in the US is so great that it's the only solution I can see, maybe something similar to Yugoslavia 90s to 00s will happen in the US. I honestly believe that in my life time there will be more countries in North America than what is the case currently. 
The differences between rich and literally everyone else is so large, the middle class is struggling. A struggling middle class is always a bad sign, the workers are always struggling compared to the rest, and they will always be willing to side with the middle class if it means that the rich will be overthrown, even if it won't bring a better future for them. 
The race issues in America doesn't make it easier either, something has to happen. That something is pretty much always war. 
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:25
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wug wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
I'd love to discuss it because I slightly share the same view as you but idk if it's because of the same things so I dare not speak on it lmao 
Tell us!!
Postponing an inevitable civil war will for a number of reasons be more harmful than just doing it now. The split in the US is so great that it's the only solution I can see, maybe something similar to Yugoslavia 90s to 00s will happen in the US. I honestly believe that in my life time there will be more countries in North America than what is the case currently. 
The differences between rich and literally everyone else is so large, the middle class is struggling. A struggling middle class is always a bad sign, the workers are always struggling compared to the rest, and they will always be willing to side with the middle class if it means that the rich will be overthrown, even if it won't bring a better future for them. 
The race issues in America doesn't make it easier either, something has to happen. That something is pretty much always war. 
How this aligns with Biden being worse for long term perspectives for me, is that if Trump got elected it would likely happen within those four years. A civil war is sadly better for the long term future of the people living in what is the US today. 
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:26
December
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December wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
I'd love to discuss it because I slightly share the same view as you but idk if it's because of the same things so I dare not speak on it lmao 
Tell us!!
Postponing an inevitable civil war will for a number of reasons be more harmful than just doing it now. The split in the US is so great that it's the only solution I can see, maybe something similar to Yugoslavia 90s to 00s will happen in the US. I honestly believe that in my life time there will be more countries in North America than what is the case currently. 
The differences between rich and literally everyone else is so large, the middle class is struggling. A struggling middle class is always a bad sign, the workers are always struggling compared to the rest, and they will always be willing to side with the middle class if it means that the rich will be overthrown, even if it won't bring a better future for them. 
The race issues in America doesn't make it easier either, something has to happen. That something is pretty much always war. 
so either they have a civil war now or an even worse one later. great.

also didn't biden say he was gonna help the middle class
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:27
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
I'd love to discuss it because I slightly share the same view as you but idk if it's because of the same things so I dare not speak on it lmao 
Tell us!!
Postponing an inevitable civil war will for a number of reasons be more harmful than just doing it now. The split in the US is so great that it's the only solution I can see, maybe something similar to Yugoslavia 90s to 00s will happen in the US. I honestly believe that in my life time there will be more countries in North America than what is the case currently. 
The differences between rich and literally everyone else is so large, the middle class is struggling. A struggling middle class is always a bad sign, the workers are always struggling compared to the rest, and they will always be willing to side with the middle class if it means that the rich will be overthrown, even if it won't bring a better future for them. 
The race issues in America doesn't make it easier either, something has to happen. That something is pretty much always war. 

We arent except a war/ revolution for a couple more years like we just getting to the boiling point and if we try now it guaranteed to fail , at least by looking at the russian revolution
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:27
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wug wrote:
December wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Tell us!!
Postponing an inevitable civil war will for a number of reasons be more harmful than just doing it now. The split in the US is so great that it's the only solution I can see, maybe something similar to Yugoslavia 90s to 00s will happen in the US. I honestly believe that in my life time there will be more countries in North America than what is the case currently. 
The differences between rich and literally everyone else is so large, the middle class is struggling. A struggling middle class is always a bad sign, the workers are always struggling compared to the rest, and they will always be willing to side with the middle class if it means that the rich will be overthrown, even if it won't bring a better future for them. 
The race issues in America doesn't make it easier either, something has to happen. That something is pretty much always war. 
so either they have a civil war now or an even worse one later. great.

also didn't biden say he was gonna help the middle class
Yeah basically. Also, always important to keep in mind that technology keeps advancing, the further in the future it happens the worse. Basically. 

I'm not going to discuss the class topic right now my eye keeps hurting and I am thirsty lmao. 
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:28
December
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December wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Tell us!!
Postponing an inevitable civil war will for a number of reasons be more harmful than just doing it now. The split in the US is so great that it's the only solution I can see, maybe something similar to Yugoslavia 90s to 00s will happen in the US. I honestly believe that in my life time there will be more countries in North America than what is the case currently. 
The differences between rich and literally everyone else is so large, the middle class is struggling. A struggling middle class is always a bad sign, the workers are always struggling compared to the rest, and they will always be willing to side with the middle class if it means that the rich will be overthrown, even if it won't bring a better future for them. 
The race issues in America doesn't make it easier either, something has to happen. That something is pretty much always war. 
How this aligns with Biden being worse for long term perspectives for me, is that if Trump got elected it would likely happen within those four years. A civil war is sadly better for the long term future of the people living in what is the US today. 
that is so sad
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:28
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BloomCissi wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
I'd love to discuss it because I slightly share the same view as you but idk if it's because of the same things so I dare not speak on it lmao 
Tell us!!
Postponing an inevitable civil war will for a number of reasons be more harmful than just doing it now. The split in the US is so great that it's the only solution I can see, maybe something similar to Yugoslavia 90s to 00s will happen in the US. I honestly believe that in my life time there will be more countries in North America than what is the case currently. 
The differences between rich and literally everyone else is so large, the middle class is struggling. A struggling middle class is always a bad sign, the workers are always struggling compared to the rest, and they will always be willing to side with the middle class if it means that the rich will be overthrown, even if it won't bring a better future for them. 
The race issues in America doesn't make it easier either, something has to happen. That something is pretty much always war. 
Oh, interesting. Very interesting.
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Delusion1111111 wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Delusion1111111 wrote:
me *says i dont wanna get into this debate rn n does it anyway even tho i am in no fit state to b attempting to explain my opinions n views*
But I want to hear the arguments!
no 1 i think a biden presidency could, as i said earlier, potentially result in someone worse than trump getting elected eventually bcuz i dont think bidens presidency will adequately deal w the problems that led to like HALF of the population voting for someone like trump. the rise of fascism isnt limited to just trump as an individual it will continue to rise even without him in power. like snus said HELLO CIVIL WAR. no 2 i think biden will giv the illusion of stability and normalcy n i dont like the idea of that at all because that leads to complacency . that leads to administrations continuing to do fucked up things n not being held accountable (e.g. every1 is like oh obama was so great i miss obama even tho obama was drone striking innocent civilians like hello) . these arent like great arguments for keeping trump in power OBVIOUSLY but its just an analysis of where a biden presidency could lead. ummmm what else. oh yea like i said earlier, by voting for biden i.e. the lesser of two evils , both choices will b worse next time. its just a continuing downward spiral that has dire long term consequences 
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:29
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wug wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Tell us!!
Postponing an inevitable civil war will for a number of reasons be more harmful than just doing it now. The split in the US is so great that it's the only solution I can see, maybe something similar to Yugoslavia 90s to 00s will happen in the US. I honestly believe that in my life time there will be more countries in North America than what is the case currently. 
The differences between rich and literally everyone else is so large, the middle class is struggling. A struggling middle class is always a bad sign, the workers are always struggling compared to the rest, and they will always be willing to side with the middle class if it means that the rich will be overthrown, even if it won't bring a better future for them. 
The race issues in America doesn't make it easier either, something has to happen. That something is pretty much always war. 

We arent except a war/ revolution for a couple more years like we just getting to the boiling point and if we try now it guaranteed to fail , at least by looking at the russian revolution
It's going to happen. Anything else would shock me to the core. Also, just look at any European civil war or revolution, when people are fed up shit happens. The US is waaay beyond that point now. I'm shocked nothing has happened yet. How can people be okay with being treated like this? It's repulsive. 
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:29
December
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December wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
December wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Postponing an inevitable civil war will for a number of reasons be more harmful than just doing it now. The split in the US is so great that it's the only solution I can see, maybe something similar to Yugoslavia 90s to 00s will happen in the US. I honestly believe that in my life time there will be more countries in North America than what is the case currently. 
The differences between rich and literally everyone else is so large, the middle class is struggling. A struggling middle class is always a bad sign, the workers are always struggling compared to the rest, and they will always be willing to side with the middle class if it means that the rich will be overthrown, even if it won't bring a better future for them. 
The race issues in America doesn't make it easier either, something has to happen. That something is pretty much always war. 
so either they have a civil war now or an even worse one later. great.

also didn't biden say he was gonna help the middle class
Yeah basically. Also, always important to keep in mind that technology keeps advancing, the further in the future it happens the worse. Basically. 

I'm not going to discuss the class topic right now my eye keeps hurting and I am thirsty lmao. 
i see your point

still think biden needs to win
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Date: 06-11-2020 16:29
TheWayfaringStranger
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TheWayfaringStranger wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
Snusmumrikken wrote:
BloomCissi wrote:
Tell us!!
Postponing an inevitable civil war will for a number of reasons be more harmful than just doing it now. The split in the US is so great that it's the only solution I can see, maybe something similar to Yugoslavia 90s to 00s will happen in the US. I honestly believe that in my life time there will be more countries in North America than what is the case currently. 
The differences between rich and literally everyone else is so large, the middle class is struggling. A struggling middle class is always a bad sign, the workers are always struggling compared to the rest, and they will always be willing to side with the middle class if it means that the rich will be overthrown, even if it won't bring a better future for them. 
The race issues in America doesn't make it easier either, something has to happen. That something is pretty much always war. 
How this aligns with Biden being worse for long term perspectives for me, is that if Trump got elected it would likely happen within those four years. A civil war is sadly better for the long term future of the people living in what is the US today. 
Okay. I can see that. sad
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