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Maxwell wrote:
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devilcake wrote:

Olympus wrote:

devilcake wrote:
Its sorta like, because of the way mods here, and on other sites generally have and do act a lot of the time, a situation like this where basically all of the userbase who have seen the situation goes um yo thats not it fam, and then have that point either repetedly misunderstood, avoided or dismissed (even if that wantt on purpose!!!) is going to be an example of those typical mod behaviors we want to be avoided.

the mod team on this has gone way over expecations compared to what i expected from past moderators, ive tried to make it clear so many times that i appreaciate the transparency we do get.That the mod team is new and theres a learning curve is super understandable, mistakes happen, and this thread locking was a mistake. Thats okay. I hope that in the future we can have a mod team that makes a mistake and can own that without dancing around the subject to the point where mistrust is reached.

I still feel like the locked thread situation hasnt been adequately adressed, and i still feel like i dont know if the mods truly think it was a mistake or not, cherry just happened to be the only one to respond to it and the way it was worded didnt really clear it up for me, and its hard to know whats being is meant to be the thing theyve discussed as a team and what is a singular mods words n stuff like that too.

Okay, i'm gathering that the issue is you want a specific thing addressed on it's own (The locking of Maxwells thread) and instead the Mods are addressing everything that has been said, at once, and that is causing their responses to feel and look like empty blanket responses as opposed to proper ownership of the mismanaged locking of the Maxwell thread?

Yeah!! Thank you,, that + the reason i feel like it should be adressed on its own being needed to understanding it was mismanagement or a misunderstanding (both of which could still be a mistake, which is okay)

n like what potentially not being able to take ownership of a situation might say about upcoming situation, which is more of a hey guys lets make sure this doesnt happen than me saying omg you treated this sitation like this, and that means you will abuse your power later!

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devilcake wrote:

Maxwell wrote:
ACHoo

Bro im so sawry

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Azriel wrote:

devilcake wrote:

Olympus wrote:

devilcake wrote:
Its sorta like, because of the way mods here, and on other sites generally have and do act a lot of the time, a situation like this where basically all of the userbase who have seen the situation goes um yo thats not it fam, and then have that point either repetedly misunderstood, avoided or dismissed (even if that wantt on purpose!!!) is going to be an example of those typical mod behaviors we want to be avoided.

the mod team on this has gone way over expecations compared to what i expected from past moderators, ive tried to make it clear so many times that i appreaciate the transparency we do get.That the mod team is new and theres a learning curve is super understandable, mistakes happen, and this thread locking was a mistake. Thats okay. I hope that in the future we can have a mod team that makes a mistake and can own that without dancing around the subject to the point where mistrust is reached.

I still feel like the locked thread situation hasnt been adequately adressed, and i still feel like i dont know if the mods truly think it was a mistake or not, cherry just happened to be the only one to respond to it and the way it was worded didnt really clear it up for me, and its hard to know whats being is meant to be the thing theyve discussed as a team and what is a singular mods words n stuff like that too.

Okay, i'm gathering that the issue is you want a specific thing addressed on it's own (The locking of Maxwells thread) and instead the Mods are addressing everything that has been said, at once, and that is causing their responses to feel and look like empty blanket responses as opposed to proper ownership of the mismanaged locking of the Maxwell thread?

Yeah!! Thank you,, that + the reason i feel like it should be adressed on its own being needed to understanding it was mismanagement or a misunderstanding (both of which could still be a mistake, which is okay)

n like what potentially not being able to take ownership of a situation might say about upcoming situation, which is more of a hey guys lets make sure this doesnt happen than me saying omg you treated this sitation like this, and that means you will abuse your power later!

i think its hard for the newbies to comment on a lot because we were either not there or were not sure what we are and are not allowed to share from the team discussions we had on this
thats why cherry mainly replied earlier i think

i also didnt realise u wanted maxwells thread to be separately addressed bc in my eyes it was already addressed hh

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devilcake wrote:

Azriel wrote:

devilcake wrote:

Olympus wrote:
Okay, i'm gathering that the issue is you want a specific thing addressed on it's own (The locking of Maxwells thread) and instead the Mods are addressing everything that has been said, at once, and that is causing their responses to feel and look like empty blanket responses as opposed to proper ownership of the mismanaged locking of the Maxwell thread?

Yeah!! Thank you,, that + the reason i feel like it should be adressed on its own being needed to understanding it was mismanagement or a misunderstanding (both of which could still be a mistake, which is okay)

n like what potentially not being able to take ownership of a situation might say about upcoming situation, which is more of a hey guys lets make sure this doesnt happen than me saying omg you treated this sitation like this, and that means you will abuse your power later!

i think its hard for the newbies to comment on a lot because we were either not there or were not sure what we are and are not allowed to share from the team discussions we had on this
thats why cherry mainly replied earlier i think

i also didnt realise u wanted maxwells thread to be separately addressed bc in my eyes it was already addressed hh

where was it adressed /gen not trying to attack u

cos i feel like a lot of things were adressed on its own like the moving of threads, the uptake in activity, confusion on rules due to them being changed soon, were all adressed but the locking of the thread wasn't until cherry mentioned it,,, unless i missed it somehow

or were one of those other things supposed to adress that also, and if so how?

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Azriel wrote:

devilcake wrote:

Azriel wrote:

devilcake wrote:
Yeah!! Thank you,, that + the reason i feel like it should be adressed on its own being needed to understanding it was mismanagement or a misunderstanding (both of which could still be a mistake, which is okay)

n like what potentially not being able to take ownership of a situation might say about upcoming situation, which is more of a hey guys lets make sure this doesnt happen than me saying omg you treated this sitation like this, and that means you will abuse your power later!

i think its hard for the newbies to comment on a lot because we were either not there or were not sure what we are and are not allowed to share from the team discussions we had on this
thats why cherry mainly replied earlier i think

i also didnt realise u wanted maxwells thread to be separately addressed bc in my eyes it was already addressed hh

where was it adressed /gen not trying to attack u

cos i feel like a lot of things were adressed on its own like the moving of threads, the uptake in activity, confusion on rules due to them being changed soon, were all adressed but the locking of the thread wasn't until cherry mentioned it,,, unless i missed it somehow

or were one of those other things supposed to adress that also, and if so how?

locking of threads is briefly mentioned in the op .. . we might not have explicitly mentioned maxwell's thread but us saying we are still learning and reviewing how to handle future situations etc is all very much about that, as i think that is what really set off the discussions about mod team yesterday

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Elisia wrote:
I am late to reply, but if the mod moving the thread could reply to let the op know its being moved or locked "if you feel this is a mistake please dm me or another mod" sort of message,,,,

These are important conversations to have publicly, but as a mod I think it is also important that if YOU are the one making one of those choices (for ANY reason) the OP should be aware of who didn't it and they should be able to appeal to have it moved back/unlocked.

It doesnt have to be while in bootcamp but EVENTUALLY

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novocaine wrote:

Elisia wrote:
I am late to reply, but if the mod moving the thread could reply to let the op know its being moved or locked "if you feel this is a mistake please dm me or another mod" sort of message,,,,

These are important conversations to have publicly, but as a mod I think it is also important that if YOU are the one making one of those choices (for ANY reason) the OP should be aware of who didn't it and they should be able to appeal to have it moved back/unlocked.

It doesnt have to be while in bootcamp but EVENTUALLY

i like this idea

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Sylvan wrote:
I've been away for a while but I can't say I really noticed many problems with less enforcement of certain rules so why not leave it like that

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Elisia wrote:

Sylvan wrote:
I've been away for a while but I can't say I really noticed many problems with less enforcement of certain rules so why not leave it like that

I think cause they're in bootcamp they have to follow the rules as they're written
AT LEAST
Until the newer more lax rules are official.

That's my understanding of what cherry said-
Mod pls correct me if I'm wrong

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devilcake wrote:

Azriel wrote:

devilcake wrote:

Azriel wrote:
i think its hard for the newbies to comment on a lot because we were either not there or were not sure what we are and are not allowed to share from the team discussions we had on this
thats why cherry mainly replied earlier i think

i also didnt realise u wanted maxwells thread to be separately addressed bc in my eyes it was already addressed hh

where was it adressed /gen not trying to attack u

cos i feel like a lot of things were adressed on its own like the moving of threads, the uptake in activity, confusion on rules due to them being changed soon, were all adressed but the locking of the thread wasn't until cherry mentioned it,,, unless i missed it somehow

or were one of those other things supposed to adress that also, and if so how?

locking of threads is briefly mentioned in the op .. . we might not have explicitly mentioned maxwell's thread but us saying we are still learning and reviewing how to handle future situations etc is all very much about that, as i think that is what really set off the discussions about mod team yesterday

okay but the intro post is mainly just stating that there were a thread/threads being locked due to enforing rules that previously wasn't enforced, but since maxwells thread didnt break the rules its not rly adressed

Like is there a reason why the mod team can't just plainly state "we misunderstood the topic of the thread"?
because right now it either feels like
a) part of or all of the mod team still thinks that it broke the rules as they are now
or b) the team or part of the team is having issues stating/admitting they did a wrong call

and both of these are issues to me, but its the only conclusions i can come too if the other things that have been said is supposed to adress it (aside from cherrys comment, which came late and still showed traces of one of those conclusions)

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devilcake wrote:

Sylvan wrote:
I've been away for a while but I can't say I really noticed many problems with less enforcement of certain rules so why not leave it like that

yeah were getting new rules eventually which is great! so in the future itll prolly be less enforcement of them, its just that the thread in question didnt break the rules as they are now

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joob wrote:
im just wondering why maxwells forum was automatically locked but i had to ask for the person talking about sexual preferences in my forum which is 500% more sexual than what maxwell was talking about. i feel like that doesnt even go into a grey area that like is the area

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Elisia wrote:

joob wrote:
im just wondering why maxwells forum was automatically locked but i had to ask for the person talking about sexual preferences in my forum which is 500% more sexual than what maxwell was talking about. i feel like that doesnt even go into a grey area that like is the area

If you're referring to your comp,,, i feel like it's in the same category and level as Maxwells...

Because of the loosely written rules, and the fact that there are minors on the site, they couldn't keep one but not the other-
But i digress

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Heartbroken wrote:

Elisia wrote:

joob wrote:
im just wondering why maxwells forum was automatically locked but i had to ask for the person talking about sexual preferences in my forum which is 500% more sexual than what maxwell was talking about. i feel like that doesnt even go into a grey area that like is the area

If you're referring to your comp,,, i feel like it's in the same category and level as Maxwells...

Because of the loosely written rules, and the fact that there are minors on the site, they couldn't keep one but not the other-
But i digress

you're kidding me, right