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MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
Gunshot wrote:
Claire wrote:
what do you think about this gunshot? you're quite a traditional and conservative sort of girl. i'd like your opinion.
I could see it coming, if you look at the outfits of these superhero types, I guess it makes sense, and a penis is a penis, everyone has seen one, or is this some sort of outrage and they want him to have a vagina instead??? I'm not sure
no i don't think they want him to have a vagina i think they are just upset to see a penis? 
or upset to not see it since the publisher censored it for the digital version of the comic?
people are upset to see the penis and upset to not see the penis. it's like Schrodinger's penis.

yeah, the first shock was like: Batman has a dick!
the second shock is: why does DC have to censor a dick half of the world has already seen?
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:25
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Gunshot wrote:
Claire wrote:
Gunshot wrote:
Claire wrote:
what do you think about this gunshot? you're quite a traditional and conservative sort of girl. i'd like your opinion.
I could see it coming, if you look at the outfits of these superhero types, I guess it makes sense, and a penis is a penis, everyone has seen one, or is this some sort of outrage and they want him to have a vagina instead??? I'm not sure
no i don't think they want him to have a vagina i think they are just upset to see a penis? 
or upset to not see it since the publisher censored it for the digital version of the comic?
people are upset to see the penis and upset to not see the penis. it's like Schrodinger's penis.
You can't please everyone, I'm just happy batman isn't a real bat with a batpenis because that would've been despicable, I can't support that sort of art
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:28
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Claire wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Hm, they could have gone without it, like hiding it in the shadows, sure
but then again, Batman is not a child's comic and if they want to show a naked male body, why shouldn't they be allowed to? I mean, it's really tastfully drawn, so I don't care about that
like, why are people actually upset about this? never seen a penis? never thought about the fact that batman has one? feeling unsecure about their own body? about their partner's?
it's Batman, not Ken...
men don't want to see a penis in their comic book! it's upsetting!!! 

i wonder... are men already trying to compare themselves to batman and they can never be as strong and suave and rich as batman and now there is just one more way that they cannot compete with batman??

this particular comic is called Damned so like you can't even pretend this one was possibly for kids you know? like some batman is for kids but most batman is not for kids and this one has a swear as a title so its super not for kids.

tbh, I see nothing wrong with it
I mean, it was not porn, it was just conveniant storyline, so what's the matter with these guys

plus, this whole kids discussion reminds me of the huge problem that some people think, just because something is drawn, kids can watch it as well
a few years back, I went to the pictures with my mother watching this animated musical
le magasin des suicides (the suicide-shop)
wonderful, really moving, funny actually
but it starts in the first 2 minutes of people singing how terrible the world and live is and you watch about 5 suicides in the intro alone (one of a pigeon, the funniest one of all, you can just see how this bird has given up)
anyway, there were two families in there with their children - the oldest one being about 10
they quit the room really outraged, because they didn't think the movie would be this blunt
(and by then they haven't even the scene yet where the brother watches his sister dancing in the nude and just being smitten by her beauty)

people really should start thinking about what they actually watch and if they want to be confronted with it
it surely isn't the first superhero's comic to feature nudity or even a naked guy's best piece, so really not worth the trouble
ok ok related: Actual Real Conversation I had when I worked at the movie theatre and we were showing Ted:

Well meaning but ignorant man with two small boys with him: Hi yes I would like one adult and two child tickets to the one about the teddy bear.
Me: Sir that movie is rated R.
Well meaning but ignorant man: That's fine.
Me: Sir, it is a hard R.
Well meaning but ignorant man: Yea it's fine we will see it.
Me: Sir, the bear smokes a bong and does cocaine with strippers
Well meaning but ignorant man: What movies do you have for kids?
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:28
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Claire wrote:
Gunshot wrote:
Claire wrote:
Gunshot wrote:
I could see it coming, if you look at the outfits of these superhero types, I guess it makes sense, and a penis is a penis, everyone has seen one, or is this some sort of outrage and they want him to have a vagina instead??? I'm not sure
no i don't think they want him to have a vagina i think they are just upset to see a penis? 
or upset to not see it since the publisher censored it for the digital version of the comic?
people are upset to see the penis and upset to not see the penis. it's like Schrodinger's penis.
You can't please everyone, I'm just happy batman isn't a real bat with a batpenis because that would've been despicable, I can't support that sort of art
lol oh my god i love you gunshot lol
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:29
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Claire wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
Gunshot wrote:
I could see it coming, if you look at the outfits of these superhero types, I guess it makes sense, and a penis is a penis, everyone has seen one, or is this some sort of outrage and they want him to have a vagina instead??? I'm not sure
no i don't think they want him to have a vagina i think they are just upset to see a penis? 
or upset to not see it since the publisher censored it for the digital version of the comic?
people are upset to see the penis and upset to not see the penis. it's like Schrodinger's penis.

yeah, the first shock was like: Batman has a dick!
the second shock is: why does DC have to censor a dick half of the world has already seen?
i'm offended by the censorship i think.

and like also personally hurt by it. 
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:29
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Heartbroken wrote:
What even is this thread, I'm screaming
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:30
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
men don't want to see a penis in their comic book! it's upsetting!!! 

i wonder... are men already trying to compare themselves to batman and they can never be as strong and suave and rich as batman and now there is just one more way that they cannot compete with batman??

this particular comic is called Damned so like you can't even pretend this one was possibly for kids you know? like some batman is for kids but most batman is not for kids and this one has a swear as a title so its super not for kids.

tbh, I see nothing wrong with it
I mean, it was not porn, it was just conveniant storyline, so what's the matter with these guys

plus, this whole kids discussion reminds me of the huge problem that some people think, just because something is drawn, kids can watch it as well
a few years back, I went to the pictures with my mother watching this animated musical
le magasin des suicides (the suicide-shop)
wonderful, really moving, funny actually
but it starts in the first 2 minutes of people singing how terrible the world and live is and you watch about 5 suicides in the intro alone (one of a pigeon, the funniest one of all, you can just see how this bird has given up)
anyway, there were two families in there with their children - the oldest one being about 10
they quit the room really outraged, because they didn't think the movie would be this blunt
(and by then they haven't even the scene yet where the brother watches his sister dancing in the nude and just being smitten by her beauty)

people really should start thinking about what they actually watch and if they want to be confronted with it
it surely isn't the first superhero's comic to feature nudity or even a naked guy's best piece, so really not worth the trouble
ok ok related: Actual Real Conversation I had when I worked at the movie theatre and we were showing Ted:

Well meaning but ignorant man with two small boys with him: Hi yes I would like one adult and two child tickets to the one about the teddy bear.
Me: Sir that movie is rated R.
Well meaning but ignorant man: That's fine.
Me: Sir, it is a hard R.
Well meaning but ignorant man: Yea it's fine we will see it.
Me: Sir, the bear smokes a bong and does cocaine with strippers
Well meaning but ignorant man: What movies do you have for kids?

well, tbh, Ted was a confusing one
I mean, easy title, talkign teddy bear
I mean, Paddington was a cute one
but if the title actually say SUICIDE, how can you be upset about people killing themselves?
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:30
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Claire wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

tbh, I see nothing wrong with it
I mean, it was not porn, it was just conveniant storyline, so what's the matter with these guys

plus, this whole kids discussion reminds me of the huge problem that some people think, just because something is drawn, kids can watch it as well
a few years back, I went to the pictures with my mother watching this animated musical
le magasin des suicides (the suicide-shop)
wonderful, really moving, funny actually
but it starts in the first 2 minutes of people singing how terrible the world and live is and you watch about 5 suicides in the intro alone (one of a pigeon, the funniest one of all, you can just see how this bird has given up)
anyway, there were two families in there with their children - the oldest one being about 10
they quit the room really outraged, because they didn't think the movie would be this blunt
(and by then they haven't even the scene yet where the brother watches his sister dancing in the nude and just being smitten by her beauty)

people really should start thinking about what they actually watch and if they want to be confronted with it
it surely isn't the first superhero's comic to feature nudity or even a naked guy's best piece, so really not worth the trouble
ok ok related: Actual Real Conversation I had when I worked at the movie theatre and we were showing Ted:

Well meaning but ignorant man with two small boys with him: Hi yes I would like one adult and two child tickets to the one about the teddy bear.
Me: Sir that movie is rated R.
Well meaning but ignorant man: That's fine.
Me: Sir, it is a hard R.
Well meaning but ignorant man: Yea it's fine we will see it.
Me: Sir, the bear smokes a bong and does cocaine with strippers
Well meaning but ignorant man: What movies do you have for kids?

well, tbh, Ted was a confusing one
I mean, easy title, talkign teddy bear
I mean, Paddington was a cute one
but if the title actually say SUICIDE, how can you be upset about people killing themselves?
i guess the point with the ted story is that you REALLY have to spell it out for people. like, you can't just say  this movie is about suicide you have to say "SUICDIE MEANS LITERALLY KILLING YOURSELF AND tHIS IS NOt FOR KIDS AT ALL" 
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:31
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
no i don't think they want him to have a vagina i think they are just upset to see a penis? 
or upset to not see it since the publisher censored it for the digital version of the comic?
people are upset to see the penis and upset to not see the penis. it's like Schrodinger's penis.

yeah, the first shock was like: Batman has a dick!
the second shock is: why does DC have to censor a dick half of the world has already seen?
i'm offended by the censorship i think.

and like also personally hurt by it. 

I don't like the censorship either
it was such a nice and discrete, decent view
censoring means a step backwards in proper nudes
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:35
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
ok ok related: Actual Real Conversation I had when I worked at the movie theatre and we were showing Ted:

Well meaning but ignorant man with two small boys with him: Hi yes I would like one adult and two child tickets to the one about the teddy bear.
Me: Sir that movie is rated R.
Well meaning but ignorant man: That's fine.
Me: Sir, it is a hard R.
Well meaning but ignorant man: Yea it's fine we will see it.
Me: Sir, the bear smokes a bong and does cocaine with strippers
Well meaning but ignorant man: What movies do you have for kids?

well, tbh, Ted was a confusing one
I mean, easy title, talkign teddy bear
I mean, Paddington was a cute one
but if the title actually say SUICIDE, how can you be upset about people killing themselves?
i guess the point with the ted story is that you REALLY have to spell it out for people. like, you can't just say  this movie is about suicide you have to say "SUICDIE MEANS LITERALLY KILLING YOURSELF AND tHIS IS NOt FOR KIDS AT ALL" 

sometimes I doubt that it's really that
I feel like people are just like: it's drawn, so for kids, so surely it can't be about this or that
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:35
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Claire wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:

well, tbh, Ted was a confusing one
I mean, easy title, talkign teddy bear
I mean, Paddington was a cute one
but if the title actually say SUICIDE, how can you be upset about people killing themselves?
i guess the point with the ted story is that you REALLY have to spell it out for people. like, you can't just say  this movie is about suicide you have to say "SUICDIE MEANS LITERALLY KILLING YOURSELF AND tHIS IS NOt FOR KIDS AT ALL" 

sometimes I doubt that it's really that
I feel like people are just like: it's drawn, so for kids, so surely it can't be about this or that
i have some anime dvds to sell those people..... 
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:36
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
i guess the point with the ted story is that you REALLY have to spell it out for people. like, you can't just say  this movie is about suicide you have to say "SUICDIE MEANS LITERALLY KILLING YOURSELF AND tHIS IS NOt FOR KIDS AT ALL" 

sometimes I doubt that it's really that
I feel like people are just like: it's drawn, so for kids, so surely it can't be about this or that
i have some anime dvds to sell those people..... 

reminds me when mangas became the thing in Europe, but the first mangas to come to us were porn
and then soon after, the casual mangas
my mother was in a parents group when we were in primary school and they organised an event where they collected donations for a game
someone donated a huge carton full with mangas (those you take when you move out)
there were about 10 casual ones and the rest was solid porn, some even hardcore
my mom just stood there like: you know this is for children? what should we do with this?
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:40
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Claire wrote:
Is that maybe a bit of a generational thing? Like cartoons very much were for kids for a long time there yea? Now I wanna look into the history of animation for adults. 
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:40
MasileinDE
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MasileinDE wrote:
Claire wrote:
Is that maybe a bit of a generational thing? Like cartoons very much were for kids for a long time there yea? Now I wanna look into the history of animation for adults. 

the first cartoons weren't though


like, there was a time when they were showing the really odl Mickey Mouse short animations in cinema before movies (usually children's movies as well)
and it was though
I sat there, so creeped out, looked at my ma and went: this can't be all right...
Carlo was soooo obviously getting the hots for Minny, shown by a dotted line from his eyes to her
and then he shortly closed his eyes and Clarabella jumped in front and when he looked back up, you could see his "line" sinking like a fleeting erection
it was before Frozen!
thank god most of the kid's didn't get it ...
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:41 | Times changed: 1
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Persona wrote:
men are just mad because seeing a penis is 'gay' unless they're watching it penetrate a woman, then it's okay
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Date: 20-09-2018 18:43
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