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Claire wrote:
Shadowjess wrote:
Saudade wrote:
Jess! This is a great idea to just take time and breath. We know you have a lot on your plate. I know me and Claire discussed the idea of having one or two people on the team who are just there for doing things like checking and replying to emails, maybe even upload sets from non-d team members, so maybe thats something to consider! You already have 2 lovely volunteers. <3 
Best of luck and I hope things get resolved!
It can defiantly be in consideration - but I think due to the number of people we have already, we should be able to work around it without having to take anyone else on board. ENDT is a beefy team as it is (being the largest team I think in all of VP).
It doesn't matter if your team is huge if nobody on it is doing anything. Start booting the people who don't do the work. 

Jesus Jess for the last YEAR I have been giving you really good advice about how to run a massive team on a website I am probably one of the most qualified people to do this on VP and you just straight ignored my advice for a YEAR. 
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Date: 27-04-2020 20:00
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Claire wrote:
The submissions being sent to the DT account doesn't work because VP eats the messages.

Submissions should be made in a dedicated forum so you can go back and find them and never have the excuse of 'oh that message is gone now uwu'. 

There are SIMPLE solutions to your problems here and you let VP fall apart instead of doing anything. You have absolutely failed as Admin, Jess. Absolutely. 
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Date: 27-04-2020 20:02
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Claire wrote:
TWO teams going on a hiatus on your watch. TWO.

What does Kaj know about all of this is he happy with how you've (failed to) run his site?
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Date: 27-04-2020 20:04
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Claire wrote:
Claire wrote:
I'm shocked that you need to shut down in order to adjust your procedures. 

Imagine if I shut down /r/amitheasshole or just told the team to stop moderating every time I wanted to make a change to the rules lmao. What a joke. 
I mean IMAGINE lmao. "Hey I know we usually moderate these conversations daily but we're just gonna stop that right now because we need to vote on a new rule" Like are you ACTUALLY incapable of doing the same work that you've (not really) done for two weeks while working this out? You can't do more than one thing at a time? How are you an admin on a website if you can't run your team while also making adjustments to it?
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Date: 27-04-2020 20:10
Saudade
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Saudade wrote:
Shadowjess wrote:
Saudade wrote:
Jess! This is a great idea to just take time and breath. We know you have a lot on your plate. I know me and Claire discussed the idea of having one or two people on the team who are just there for doing things like checking and replying to emails, maybe even upload sets from non-d team members, so maybe thats something to consider! You already have 2 lovely volunteers. <3 
Best of luck and I hope things get resolved!
It can defiantly be in consideration - but I think due to the number of people we have already, we should be able to work around it without having to take anyone else on board. ENDT is a beefy team as it is (being the largest team I think in all of VP).
I agree its large but having one or two members who are *not* designers, and solely on the team as some sort of 'maintenance' would be something that could really benefit the team! It would allow the other members of the team to get on with what they joined for - designing - while the messaging part is taken care of by someone else. Plus its design team, I don't think it matters too much if it's the biggest team because that just means they get to upload their own work instead of you or someone else doing it for them
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Date: 27-04-2020 20:10
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Claire wrote:
Saudade wrote:
Shadowjess wrote:
Saudade wrote:
Jess! This is a great idea to just take time and breath. We know you have a lot on your plate. I know me and Claire discussed the idea of having one or two people on the team who are just there for doing things like checking and replying to emails, maybe even upload sets from non-d team members, so maybe thats something to consider! You already have 2 lovely volunteers. <3 
Best of luck and I hope things get resolved!
It can defiantly be in consideration - but I think due to the number of people we have already, we should be able to work around it without having to take anyone else on board. ENDT is a beefy team as it is (being the largest team I think in all of VP).
I agree its large but having one or two members who are *not* designers, and solely on the team as some sort of 'maintenance' would be something that could really benefit the team! It would allow the other members of the team to get on with what they joined for - designing - while the messaging part is taken care of by someone else. Plus its design team, I don't think it matters too much if it's the biggest team because that just means they get to upload their own work instead of you or someone else doing it for them
They don't even need to give them a badge or add them to their team chat on discord. Just give them access to the team account to be able to go in and fix shit.
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Date: 27-04-2020 20:12
Saudade
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Saudade wrote:
Claire wrote:
Saudade wrote:
Shadowjess wrote:
It can defiantly be in consideration - but I think due to the number of people we have already, we should be able to work around it without having to take anyone else on board. ENDT is a beefy team as it is (being the largest team I think in all of VP).
I agree its large but having one or two members who are *not* designers, and solely on the team as some sort of 'maintenance' would be something that could really benefit the team! It would allow the other members of the team to get on with what they joined for - designing - while the messaging part is taken care of by someone else. Plus its design team, I don't think it matters too much if it's the biggest team because that just means they get to upload their own work instead of you or someone else doing it for them
They don't even need to give them a badge or add them to their team chat on discord. Just give them access to the team account to be able to go in and fix shit.
Exactly! It would just easily resolve the entire issue imo.
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Date: 27-04-2020 20:13
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Claire wrote:
Saudade wrote:
Claire wrote:
Saudade wrote:
I agree its large but having one or two members who are *not* designers, and solely on the team as some sort of 'maintenance' would be something that could really benefit the team! It would allow the other members of the team to get on with what they joined for - designing - while the messaging part is taken care of by someone else. Plus its design team, I don't think it matters too much if it's the biggest team because that just means they get to upload their own work instead of you or someone else doing it for them
They don't even need to give them a badge or add them to their team chat on discord. Just give them access to the team account to be able to go in and fix shit.
Exactly! It would just easily resolve the entire issue imo.
It's too easy we need to shut down the whole site to fix it instead, dude. 

Bruh I'm actually pissed I need to fuck off from VP for a day.
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Date: 27-04-2020 20:15
Eifos
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Eifos wrote:
Thank you for your suggetions with having members of the Designer Team solely focus on the non-design parts of the team work. We are currently discussing this in our team, and we have a few candidates already onboard who would like to take upon these roles, rather than focus on designs. The final form is not yet decided.

Additionally, we are considering whether we can change the design submissing way, so we no longer loose all the great designs comming in from Non-designers on VP. We know this has and is a big issue for the team currently. 

Back in 2017 we established a thread within our Designer section to hold sets when they were submitted. This thread is still used today where sets that are either waiting to be uploaded or are awaiting checking are held. We acknowledge that within the last period there has been issues where we have been sent submissions and the mails have either been A) Left read with no action B) Left unread or C) Left read, set passed over and no feedback has been provided. These are one of the main reasons to why this short-term break is in affect. 

We, as a team, have chosen to take a break from the submission part, while we adjust our process. We deem this will make it more efficent for us to decide and ajust properly. This might be inconvient for those who wish to submit designs, but hopefully you will bear over with us for a short while.

As mentioned earlier, this will only affect the uploading and sorting of messages by unofficial designers (NonDs). Any production of designs will not cease over the course of the next two weeks and we're happy for unofficial designers to send their creations to the other teams during this period. We are also happy for any designers who do not wish to send their creations to the other teams to resend their creations to the Designer Team once this is resolved.

We do not expect this to affect the amount of designs commening in game.
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Date: 28-04-2020 13:31
Snailman
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snailman wrote:
lol
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Date: 28-04-2020 14:49
Snailman
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snailman wrote:
actually claire, i am the most qualified person to give advice on this because i am a mod on two subreddits
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Date: 28-04-2020 14:50
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Claire wrote:
snailman wrote:
actually claire, i am the most qualified person to give advice on this because i am a mod on two subreddits
youre free to mock me dude but the fact is that i've been offering solutions from a place of experience for a long time while DT continued to function in a way that obviously is not working for the users of vp. 
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Date: 28-04-2020 22:34
Djinn
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djinn wrote:
Also, will there be an effort made to make sure designers get their own sets they made??
For example, "User A" submits a design. DT (or whoever) makes a note that this design was made by User A, so when it becomes available in game, User A receives a code for their set.
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Date: 29-04-2020 01:19
MissLondon
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MissLondon wrote:
I remember when DT didn't exist soooo, VP will go on. 
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Date: 29-04-2020 01:32
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uhyre wrote:
djinn wrote:
Also, will there be an effort made to make sure designers get their own sets they made??
For example, "User A" submits a design. DT (or whoever) makes a note that this design was made by User A, so when it becomes available in game, User A receives a code for their set.
it says in the rules that you just need to mail an online designer for a code
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Date: 29-04-2020 02:16
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