Abby wrote:ouch wrote:Koolaid wrote:
its so messed up bc countries want the gold stars for taking in immigrants but neglect to integrate them properly. then these immigrants grow up to be "bad examples" so inhabitants are like fuck no no more immigrants aaaaa
Yes we have this saying, swedish conditions (? Svenske tilstander) which usually refers to how in sweden its gone off the rails too much w foreigners criminality etc (idk im struggling to write this in english but). And how we in norway do not want that. But I think ppl r also just scared to seem racist or islamophobic if u start questioning the values of these ppl. Like with the couses in not being a misogynist n stuff. I would figure many ppl, esp on the internet, would think its islamophobic cus it kinda makes it seem like "everyone from an islamic country is a woman hater bad bad bad", but I think its just good to take precautions, even tho the majority of the men might not be like that, it still seems statistically worse than norwegian born people.
if there's no oppression that made it so the statistics look like that, yeah it's SUPER important to make precations, as religious people tend to bring more kids to the world, and statistically, their group would grow bigger, and even if a lot of the kids would've been born in Norway, still they would've grow up with values from their parents and in some cases, it cannot be helped, my family is a GREAT example,
my biological is an extremist, thinking women are there to be a children factory and a housewife, and I got to grow up in 2 countries, the second one is really more accepting of women and the idea of women having a say and power, and the moment I got an actual good education and realized that I can be and do anything I want... I was lucky and privileged enough to get out of that shit, and kids that come out of those households deserve to get the chance to be integrated properly into society, it won't ALWAYS work and sadly working with kids I've realized we can't help them all, but we can help a lot of them, and doing those steps are not rasict or bad.
Yeah, theres some bad apples of men here too, but just from ppl I have met, I have met a lot more refugees from islamic countries that seem worse, esp w women hate and homophobia, stuff like that. I remember my exs dad legit held his son up from the floor by the throat and threw him to the floor when he found out he was gay. Hes uh, kurdish? N a muslim. N its just ??? What on earth now
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