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Defund the police
Saudade
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Saudade wrote:
Azriel wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Abolished? No police at all or what
No police but other systems not based on racism or for profit 
Other systems ??? Lets ask marvel if we can use some of their people
I'm not sure if you realise but this comment is really ignorant!:-)
Right now the police are called for things like a homeless man sleeping on a bench, public disturbances, mental breakdowns, threats of suicide, domestic violence and so on, but creating new systems out of resources we already have like social services and mental health professionals will ensure these people get the help they deserve rather than being locked in a jail cell.
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Date: 25-06-2020 00:59
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Other systems ??? Lets ask marvel if we can use some of their people
I was thinking of even less corrupt systems like social workers and mental health workers!! I highly suggest you read into the plans because they are really well put !
But no police.... what
But no police! 
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Date: 25-06-2020 00:59
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
Saudade wrote:
Azriel wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
No police but other systems not based on racism or for profit 
Other systems ??? Lets ask marvel if we can use some of their people
I'm not sure if you realise but this comment is really ignorant!:-)
Right now the police are called for things like a homeless man sleeping on a bench, public disturbances, mental breakdowns, threats of suicide, domestic violence and so on, but creating new systems out of resources we already have like social services and mental health professionals will ensure these people get the help they deserve rather than being locked in a jail cell.
You are so well spoken thank you!
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Date: 25-06-2020 01:00
Saudade
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Saudade wrote:
ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Other systems ??? Lets ask marvel if we can use some of their people
I was thinking of even less corrupt systems like social workers and mental health workers!! I highly suggest you read into the plans because they are really well put !
But no police.... what
Personally I don't necessarily think there should be no police at all, because admittedly they are a key factor of society IF done correctly. With their job being more focused on actual crime it would be better. + I said abolish and rebuild! Personally I think having a clean slate would be beneficial. 
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Date: 25-06-2020 01:00
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ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
I was thinking of even less corrupt systems like social workers and mental health workers!! I highly suggest you read into the plans because they are really well put !
But no police.... what
But no police! 
Honestlie good luck not getting robbed or murdered or smth then ouff
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Posts: 95954
Date: 25-06-2020 01:00
Private
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ouch wrote:
Saudade wrote:
ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
I was thinking of even less corrupt systems like social workers and mental health workers!! I highly suggest you read into the plans because they are really well put !
But no police.... what
Personally I don't necessarily think there should be no police at all, because admittedly they are a key factor of society IF done correctly. With their job being more focused on actual crime it would be better. + I said abolish and rebuild! Personally I think having a clean slate would be beneficial. 
I can agree with this tho
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Date: 25-06-2020 01:01
CL21
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CL21 wrote:
 I think defunding the police would be so beneficial. My uncle is a police detective in a major city, and he often mentions that police salaries aren't great. If they spent the money on salaries of good police officers, more mental health screenings, and safety seminars, that alone would help immensely. However, what the money is spent on are things like swat uniforms, weapons, bullet proof vests, chemicals such as tear gas, and other similar items. If they are defunded, they will be required to spend that money on the officers rather than warfare-like materials.
The money being taken from the police could go to things such as medical and health care, both mental and physical, organizations that fight poverty, and education. Because education is funded by property taxes, poor neighborhoods with low property value are less likely to receive a proper education. Poor neighborhoods are also constantly scouted by police thus increasing the number of people put in jail from these areas. It is proven many times that education is the best way to fight poverty and crime. Increasing funding for education can help bring people out of poverty and lower the crime rate in these areas.
I've noticed lots of talking about the jail system in the forum. Defunding the police can free up money to reform the system and help prisoners in various ways. It can allow for good psychologists to be brought in, better living situations for prisoners, pay prisoners for the work they do, and allow for better educational opportunities for prisoners while they are incarcerated. In other words, defunding the police would help with this issue too rather than hurt it. Just some things to think about...
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Date: 25-06-2020 01:02 | Times changed: 1
Saudade
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Saudade wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Saudade wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Other systems ??? Lets ask marvel if we can use some of their people
I'm not sure if you realise but this comment is really ignorant!:-)
Right now the police are called for things like a homeless man sleeping on a bench, public disturbances, mental breakdowns, threats of suicide, domestic violence and so on, but creating new systems out of resources we already have like social services and mental health professionals will ensure these people get the help they deserve rather than being locked in a jail cell.
You are so well spoken thank you!
Thank you! I'm not the most educated person in the world but I've been reading a lot about this stuff and just throwing my own input in, so I hope no one reads what I'm saying as complete fact! Just wanted a lovely conversation about corrupt police x
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Date: 25-06-2020 01:02
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Prince of Pop



Azriel wrote:
Saudade wrote:
Azriel wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
No police but other systems not based on racism or for profit 
Other systems ??? Lets ask marvel if we can use some of their people
I'm not sure if you realise but this comment is really ignorant!:-)
Right now the police are called for things like a homeless man sleeping on a bench, public disturbances, mental breakdowns, threats of suicide, domestic violence and so on, but creating new systems out of resources we already have like social services and mental health professionals will ensure these people get the help they deserve rather than being locked in a jail cell.
Cool!:-) social services and mental health stuff sure but u need the police or ull get white men going out with their guns for vigilante justice
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Date: 25-06-2020 01:02
BunnyButts
International Star



BunnyButts wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Saudade wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Other systems ??? Lets ask marvel if we can use some of their people
I'm not sure if you realise but this comment is really ignorant!:-)
Right now the police are called for things like a homeless man sleeping on a bench, public disturbances, mental breakdowns, threats of suicide, domestic violence and so on, but creating new systems out of resources we already have like social services and mental health professionals will ensure these people get the help they deserve rather than being locked in a jail cell.
Cool!:-) social services and mental health stuff sure but u need the police or ull get white men going out with their guns for vigilante justice
 Hmm but that's happening and they're getting away with it
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Posts: 22712
Date: 25-06-2020 01:04
Private
Popstar



ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Saudade wrote:
I'm not sure if you realise but this comment is really ignorant!:-)
Right now the police are called for things like a homeless man sleeping on a bench, public disturbances, mental breakdowns, threats of suicide, domestic violence and so on, but creating new systems out of resources we already have like social services and mental health professionals will ensure these people get the help they deserve rather than being locked in a jail cell.
Cool!:-) social services and mental health stuff sure but u need the police or ull get white men going out with their guns for vigilante justice
 Hmm but that's happening and they're getting away with it
U think its gonna b better without any police at all
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Posts: 95954
Date: 25-06-2020 01:04
Private
Prince of Pop



Azriel wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Saudade wrote:
I'm not sure if you realise but this comment is really ignorant!:-)
Right now the police are called for things like a homeless man sleeping on a bench, public disturbances, mental breakdowns, threats of suicide, domestic violence and so on, but creating new systems out of resources we already have like social services and mental health professionals will ensure these people get the help they deserve rather than being locked in a jail cell.
Cool!:-) social services and mental health stuff sure but u need the police or ull get white men going out with their guns for vigilante justice
 Hmm but that's happening and they're getting away with it
Take them down instead of creating more
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Posts: 39368
Date: 25-06-2020 01:04
BunnyButts
International Star



BunnyButts wrote:
Saudade wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Saudade wrote:
I'm not sure if you realise but this comment is really ignorant!:-)
Right now the police are called for things like a homeless man sleeping on a bench, public disturbances, mental breakdowns, threats of suicide, domestic violence and so on, but creating new systems out of resources we already have like social services and mental health professionals will ensure these people get the help they deserve rather than being locked in a jail cell.
You are so well spoken thank you!
Thank you! I'm not the most educated person in the world but I've been reading a lot about this stuff and just throwing my own input in, so I hope no one reads what I'm saying as complete fact! Just wanted a lovely conversation about corrupt police x
I really appreciate it ! I think it's really informative
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Posts: 22712
Date: 25-06-2020 01:05
Saudade
National Star



Saudade wrote:
CL21 wrote:
I think defunding the police would be so beneficial. My uncle is a police detective in a major city, and he often mentions that police salaries aren't great. If they spent the money on salaries of good police officers, more mental health screenings, and safety seminars, that alone would help immensely. However, what the money is spent on are things like swat uniforms, weapons, bullet proof vests, chemicals such as tear gas, and other similar items. If they are defunded, they will be required to spend that money on the officers rather than warfare-like materials.
The money being taken from the police could go to things such as medical and health care, both mental and physical, organizations that fight poverty, and education. Because education is funded by property taxes, poor neighborhoods with low property value are less likely to receive a proper education. Poor neighborhoods are also constantly scouted by police thus increasing the number of people put in jail from these areas. It is proven many times that education is the best way to fight poverty and crime. Increasing funding for education can help bring people out of poverty and lower the crime rate in these areas.
I've noticed lots of talking about the jail system in the forum. Defunding the police can free up money to reform the system and help prisoners in various ways. It can allow for good psychologists to be brought in, better living situations for prisoners, pay prisoners for the work they do, and allow for better educational opportunities for prisoners while they are incarcerated. In other words, defunding the police would help with this issue too rather than hurt it. Just some things to think about...
I agree with all this! Nice having an opinion coming from someone who has a relative on the job!! I really wanted to highlight that one line because its so important!!! Education is so important and there are kids who aren't getting the right education at all!!
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Posts: 25982
Date: 25-06-2020 01:05
BunnyButts
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BunnyButts wrote:
ouch wrote:
BunnyButts wrote:
Azriel wrote:
Cool!:-) social services and mental health stuff sure but u need the police or ull get white men going out with their guns for vigilante justice
 Hmm but that's happening and they're getting away with it
U think its gonna b better without any police at all
See the problem is the system allows this we can't have police under the same system we know it
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Date: 25-06-2020 01:06
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