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Koolaid wrote:
someone made a great point abt white women being like i hate men is so weird bc white women genuinely do hate black men, and use their privilege to get black men arrested like..... girl u telling on urself
They r entitled obv 
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Claire wrote:
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yea your arguement is like very much along the lines of 'emotional abuse isnt abuse only physical abuse is abuse' thats the type of arguement that youre making here. youre saying a problem exists and is related to this word patriarchy but you dont want us to use this word because you want to reserve it for only the worst cases. this isnt the scholarly use of the term- academics use patriarchy to refer to all sex based oppressions. your argument makes sense but its not consistent with the way the term is actually used in academia.
No it absolutely isn't, I'm just saying it's different.
and i can see how its frustrating to see western feminists talk about things like inequality in tech jobs when there are literal infanticides happening of females in other places but i can only focus on the injustice thats happening in my own territory. i dont think youd see any western feminist who says these 'lesser' sexisms matter would say its ok to murder an infant female. we just talk about what we know. 
yeah alam's argument is very "children in africa have it worse" to me
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Koolaid wrote:
someone made a great point abt white women being like i hate men is so weird bc white women genuinely do hate black men, and use their privilege to get black men arrested like..... girl u telling on urself
Its this idea of damsel in distress that gets black men killed in the US 
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BunnyButts wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
someone made a great point abt white women being like i hate men is so weird bc white women genuinely do hate black men, and use their privilege to get black men arrested like..... girl u telling on urself
Its this idea of damsel in distress that gets black men killed in the US 
the way i have seen vids of karens throwing fits at black men when they're just walking their dog..... white women know what they're doing they aint slick
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ouch wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
someone made a great point abt white women being like i hate men is so weird bc white women genuinely do hate black men, and use their privilege to get black men arrested like..... girl u telling on urself
They r entitled obv 
Entitled to hating men
I don't understand it but dunno, its just stupid. A white woman who can practically do anything she wants, is never below black men( or women) who can't get a job, education, all that shit. And if they do think so, thats when the babying towards women starts, and also racism, homophobiceism n all that stuff yes 
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white women be like uwu im so innocent but when they see a black man they suddenly know every law in the book and got 911 on speed dial,,, miss ma'am i thought u were just an innocent woman?
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Koolaid wrote:
Claire wrote:
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No it absolutely isn't, I'm just saying it's different.
and i can see how its frustrating to see western feminists talk about things like inequality in tech jobs when there are literal infanticides happening of females in other places but i can only focus on the injustice thats happening in my own territory. i dont think youd see any western feminist who says these 'lesser' sexisms matter would say its ok to murder an infant female. we just talk about what we know. 
yeah alam's argument is very "children in africa have it worse" to me
but i can see how its frustrating though if you want to like center the conversation on what you think or what are objectively more serious issues

but like the abortion example to me is a great example of how quickly womens rights can be taken from them and how fragile any gains we have in society really are. like the bullshit in texas right now has made abortion exactly as dangerous as it would be in a place like in alams example. thats right here at home for me. thats not something far away thats something that can happen in any place where women have rights if the wrong asshole gets elected you lose all of that. handmaids tale is fucking realistic.
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anyways im tired of tiktok feminism it's taking years off my life
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Claire wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
Claire wrote:
and i can see how its frustrating to see western feminists talk about things like inequality in tech jobs when there are literal infanticides happening of females in other places but i can only focus on the injustice thats happening in my own territory. i dont think youd see any western feminist who says these 'lesser' sexisms matter would say its ok to murder an infant female. we just talk about what we know. 
yeah alam's argument is very "children in africa have it worse" to me
but i can see how its frustrating though if you want to like center the conversation on what you think or what are objectively more serious issues

but like the abortion example to me is a great example of how quickly womens rights can be taken from them and how fragile any gains we have in society really are. like the bullshit in texas right now has made abortion exactly as dangerous as it would be in a place like in alams example. thats right here at home for me. thats not something far away thats something that can happen in any place where women have rights if the wrong asshole gets elected you lose all of that. handmaids tale is fucking realistic.
i mean like its connected. if i dont have equal pay in silicon valley i can lose my rights to an abortion and then what comes next. its all about male dominance and the power structure.
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Claire wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
Claire wrote:
and i can see how its frustrating to see western feminists talk about things like inequality in tech jobs when there are literal infanticides happening of females in other places but i can only focus on the injustice thats happening in my own territory. i dont think youd see any western feminist who says these 'lesser' sexisms matter would say its ok to murder an infant female. we just talk about what we know. 
yeah alam's argument is very "children in africa have it worse" to me
but i can see how its frustrating though if you want to like center the conversation on what you think or what are objectively more serious issues

but like the abortion example to me is a great example of how quickly womens rights can be taken from them and how fragile any gains we have in society really are. like the bullshit in texas right now has made abortion exactly as dangerous as it would be in a place like in alams example. thats right here at home for me. thats not something far away thats something that can happen in any place where women have rights if the wrong asshole gets elected you lose all of that. handmaids tale is fucking realistic.
yes i agree and i empathize w alam's point. as in, ofc women in afghanistan have it fucking bad rn u know, and i would NEVER compare my oppression to theirs. im incredibly privileged in comparison. but yeah oppression is not a straight line, and that's also why intersectionality is important. black trans women are i think in more danger in God's given USA than a cis woman in Israel might be. it really depends and the "who has it worse" rhetoric helps no one
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Koolaid wrote:
Claire wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
yeah alam's argument is very "children in africa have it worse" to me
but i can see how its frustrating though if you want to like center the conversation on what you think or what are objectively more serious issues

but like the abortion example to me is a great example of how quickly womens rights can be taken from them and how fragile any gains we have in society really are. like the bullshit in texas right now has made abortion exactly as dangerous as it would be in a place like in alams example. thats right here at home for me. thats not something far away thats something that can happen in any place where women have rights if the wrong asshole gets elected you lose all of that. handmaids tale is fucking realistic.
yes i agree and i empathize w alam's point. as in, ofc women in afghanistan have it fucking bad rn u know, and i would NEVER compare my oppression to theirs. im incredibly privileged in comparison. but yeah oppression is not a straight line, and that's also why intersectionality is important. black trans women are i think in more danger in God's given USA than a cis woman in Israel might be. it really depends and the "who has it worse" rhetoric helps no one
i have HOT take about afghanistan that will get me cancelled
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Radfems make me give up on life I think, just cus uwuw women innocent can't do anything, men bad baby murderers. I think no. I think, equal focus on women problems and men problems is the best thing to do, cus if I was a man n saw radfems being all uwuw "kill all men" all the time I think I would just become a women hater lmfao, u don't feel very supportive of ppl who push u down and who seemingly sees u as bad from when u were born. No thanks
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Claire wrote:
Koolaid wrote:
Claire wrote:
but i can see how its frustrating though if you want to like center the conversation on what you think or what are objectively more serious issues

but like the abortion example to me is a great example of how quickly womens rights can be taken from them and how fragile any gains we have in society really are. like the bullshit in texas right now has made abortion exactly as dangerous as it would be in a place like in alams example. thats right here at home for me. thats not something far away thats something that can happen in any place where women have rights if the wrong asshole gets elected you lose all of that. handmaids tale is fucking realistic.
yes i agree and i empathize w alam's point. as in, ofc women in afghanistan have it fucking bad rn u know, and i would NEVER compare my oppression to theirs. im incredibly privileged in comparison. but yeah oppression is not a straight line, and that's also why intersectionality is important. black trans women are i think in more danger in God's given USA than a cis woman in Israel might be. it really depends and the "who has it worse" rhetoric helps no one
i have HOT take about afghanistan that will get me cancelled
plsss share i really like to hear ur opinion on things (or share in DM if u want)
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also the "women in syria have it worse" take is literally used by racists/white supremacists to keep women from complaining cause "be happy ur not a woman there right now haha cause i could make it so"
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ouch wrote:
Radfems make me give up on life I think, just cus uwuw women innocent can't do anything, men bad baby murderers. I think no. I think, equal focus on women problems and men problems is the best thing to do, cus if I was a man n saw radfems being all uwuw "kill all men" all the time I think I would just become a women hater lmfao, u don't feel very supportive of ppl who push u down and who seemingly sees u as bad from when u were born. No thanks
but like none of that is like how actual radical feminism works. radical feminists dont beleive anyone is the way they are because its how they were born. they think its fully about how youre raised within society. stop listening to dumbasses on tiktok and read some actual theory before you make up your mind.
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