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low empathy?
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devilcake wrote:
Parasite wrote:
devilcake wrote:
Like you can have a lot of empathy and still be obsessive and lack self control and so stupid shot because of the latter two traits????
Yup, empathy doesn't need to be part of the equation at all.
Like lower levels of empathy is a symptom of some very common mental health conditions n disorders n stuff,  and probably just people in general,,, probably a lot more common that this person seem to think lol
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Abbys wrote:
devilcake wrote:
Abbys wrote:
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I feel like you’re basing this purely on your own experience, sounds very anecdotal. If you have self control and common sense you can still abstain from doing something like that despite low empathy. The reason I do things aren’t dictated by my ability to put myself in their shoes or whatever
do you mean that even if i had a lot of empathy, i still would've done the things i did since "i lacked common sense and self-control?"
Honestly yeah that’s a possibility I think

like it’s clearly a combination of traits that makes one act in a certain way, to just brush it off as being entirely due to low empathy sound like you don’t want to examine other flaws you might have 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
i don't think i have other flaws. my only flaws are the RESULTS of having low empathy.

obviously you cannot agree or disagree with this since you don't know me but the reason i did the things i did was because my empathy (or rather conscience) didn't stop me
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wug wrote:
ouch wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
ouch wrote:
Yeah lol I fake empathy and can choose to fake it or not fake it, but I can't fake it til I make it in this regard lol,,,
I don't so it's very problematic sometimes 
I usually just shut up instead cus its less effort, I don't like having to fake empathy and my friends know so they don't care and certain stuff they won't talk to me abt if they don't want other responses than "oh poor u" etc, thank god 
Yeah it's ideal 
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ouch wrote:
I think if I went to therapy for example for aspd, the goal wouldn't be trying to learn to feel empathy, it would be to act like a normal human (not in a criminal or sadistic/whatever way) cus empathy doesn't have to impact how one acts 
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BunnyButts wrote:
not the empathy
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wug wrote:
ouch wrote:
I think if I went to therapy for example for aspd, the goal wouldn't be trying to learn to feel empathy, it would be to act like a normal human (not in a criminal or sadistic/whatever way) cus empathy doesn't have to impact how one acts 
Interesting 
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devilcake wrote:
Abbys wrote:
devilcake wrote:
Abbys wrote:
do you mean that even if i had a lot of empathy, i still would've done the things i did since "i lacked common sense and self-control?"
Honestly yeah that’s a possibility I think

like it’s clearly a combination of traits that makes one act in a certain way, to just brush it off as being entirely due to low empathy sound like you don’t want to examine other flaws you might have 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
i don't think i have other flaws. my only flaws are the RESULTS of having low empathy.

obviously you cannot agree or disagree with this since you don't know me but the reason i did the things i did was because my empathy (or rather conscience) didn't stop me
You don’t think arrogance is a flaw? 🫢🫢🫢🫢


, or an unwillingness to examine your own behaviours beyond what you have made up your mind about, or listen to others perspective etc etc. and even if you think those sort of things are caused by a lack of empathy they are still their own thing no matter the cause and can be worked on and examined separately 
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Hazelnut wrote:
ouch wrote:
I think if I went to therapy for example for aspd, the goal wouldn't be trying to learn to feel empathy, it would be to act like a normal human (not in a criminal or sadistic/whatever way) cus empathy doesn't have to impact how one acts 
yea
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wug wrote:
devilcake wrote:
Abbys wrote:
devilcake wrote:
Honestly yeah that’s a possibility I think

like it’s clearly a combination of traits that makes one act in a certain way, to just brush it off as being entirely due to low empathy sound like you don’t want to examine other flaws you might have 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
i don't think i have other flaws. my only flaws are the RESULTS of having low empathy.

obviously you cannot agree or disagree with this since you don't know me but the reason i did the things i did was because my empathy (or rather conscience) didn't stop me
You don’t think arrogance is a flaw? 🫢🫢🫢🫢


, or an unwillingness to examine your own behaviours beyond what you have made up your mind about, or listen to others perspective etc etc. and even if you think those sort of things are caused by a lack of empathy they are still their own thing no matter the cause and can be worked on and examined separately 
Arrogance is a flaw
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devilcake wrote:
I only have one flaw said the person who just proved they had more flaws by saying that king shit
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ouch wrote:
ouch wrote:
I think if I went to therapy for example for aspd, the goal wouldn't be trying to learn to feel empathy, it would be to act like a normal human (not in a criminal or sadistic/whatever way) cus empathy doesn't have to impact how one acts 
Tho cognitive empathy is def useful if u r having a hard time learning right from wrong 
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BloomCissi wrote:
Abbys wrote:
devilcake wrote:
Abbys wrote:
do you mean that even if i had a lot of empathy, i still would've done the things i did since "i lacked common sense and self-control?"
Honestly yeah that’s a possibility I think

like it’s clearly a combination of traits that makes one act in a certain way, to just brush it off as being entirely due to low empathy sound like you don’t want to examine other flaws you might have 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
i don't think i have other flaws. my only flaws are the RESULTS of having low empathy.

obviously you cannot agree or disagree with this since you don't know me but the reason i did the things i did was because my empathy (or rather conscience) didn't stop me
Why do you think conscience is necessarily related to empathy?
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devilcake wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
devilcake wrote:
Abbys wrote:
i don't think i have other flaws. my only flaws are the RESULTS of having low empathy.

obviously you cannot agree or disagree with this since you don't know me but the reason i did the things i did was because my empathy (or rather conscience) didn't stop me
You don’t think arrogance is a flaw? 🫢🫢🫢🫢


, or an unwillingness to examine your own behaviours beyond what you have made up your mind about, or listen to others perspective etc etc. and even if you think those sort of things are caused by a lack of empathy they are still their own thing no matter the cause and can be worked on and examined separately 
Arrogance is a flaw
Don’t be silly! It’s not a flaw if it’s caused by a lack of empathy 
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wug wrote:
devilcake wrote:
Klasifikovany wrote:
devilcake wrote:
You don’t think arrogance is a flaw? 🫢🫢🫢🫢


, or an unwillingness to examine your own behaviours beyond what you have made up your mind about, or listen to others perspective etc etc. and even if you think those sort of things are caused by a lack of empathy they are still their own thing no matter the cause and can be worked on and examined separately 
Arrogance is a flaw
Don’t be silly! It’s not a flaw if it’s caused by a lack of empathy 
Lmao what 
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Parasite wrote:
ouch wrote:
I think if I went to therapy for example for aspd, the goal wouldn't be trying to learn to feel empathy, it would be to act like a normal human (not in a criminal or sadistic/whatever way) cus empathy doesn't have to impact how one acts 
I feel like you're right in this. Assuming you have aspd, therapy won't suddenly make you truly feel empathy. It's not your fault that you can't, but it isn't what truly makes someone a bad person. It surely can play a role in it though without help.
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