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 ReportMISTAKES WRITERS MAKE


           L
ooking at many professional and amateur writers out there, I see a lot of distracting, recurring elements in story-writing that just make me want to toss the book out of the window. Of course, the practice of reading books itself is a great way to your imaginative skills, but it is also a death trap for clichés and causes common writing mistakes to pile up over and over again. In this article I've listed some writing mistakes you should avoid when creating a story or plotting a character, and some clichés it is advised you avoid, unless the very goal of your book was cliché-ness.
Please bear in mind that this is partially subjective and it is completely okay if you want to continue utilizing your own methods, not everything works for everyone.

Before I start, a huge thanks to these people who have given me sources and inspiration! You are the gift of Gods:
LeeXLabyrinthineTroublemakerINFECTIOUSBijiNugClosureFelicityMotionless TofsimeowNama



TROPES V. CLICHÉS

To start off, tropes and clichés are not (exactly) the same. Tropes are basically the base for themes and devices, every book has tropes, but they are all adapted to their own context and altered to fit the story. Clichés, on the other hand, are overused plot lines, characterizations and/or writing structures that are so unoriginal and half-assed, nobody will take you seriously.



WRITING FOR DUMMIES

Most writers start on sites such as Wattpad, AO3, livejournal or on a personal blog. The internet is so full of stories that it is almost impossible to come up with anything remotely creative. However, nothing is impossible. But here are some beginner mistakes you should avoid before you enter the world of writing (fan)fiction.

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"Hi my name is Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way and I have long ebony black hair..."

ONE Do not, ever, start a book with an introduction like this. Do not even start a book with a self-introduction. People read a book because they want to get to know the main character, by introducing them from the get-go you're spoiling the imagination. Also, do not put too much emphasis on describing the appearance of your character, especially when they have "almond eyes that sparkle in the moonlight". This is one of the biggest death traps beginning writers fall for and it's usually one of the signs of amateur (fan)fiction, which most people usually read for laughs.
But how do I make clear how my character looks like? Well, occasional description of apparance is tolerated, without it being annoying.

E.g.:The larger of the two – and he was quite large, well over six feet – was dark-haired, with a square jaw and coarse, pale skin. He might have been handsome had his features been less set, or his eyes, behind the glasses, less expressionless and blank." — The Secret History, Donna Tartt

A subtle way of describing someone's features, giving little hints of someone's physique while still leaving ways for the imagination.

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"I brushed my hair. Went to bed. Put out the lights. Set my alarm. My brother woke me up at 6:00 A.M. (Goddarn it was early in the morning, WHAT THE FUCK??!!). "You need to wake up Ebony!!!!" My brother screamed. "But I don't want to! Leave me alone!!!' I screamed and I pulled the blankets over my face. He left (Thank God)."

or

"I like fruit but the bartender told me there were no fruit smoothies left so I was forced to order a Coke, which I don't even like btw, and then I went to my friends, Chanelle and Coco, who were sitting on the other side of the giant patio, which belonged to my father, who was a millionaire, I said hi to them and they waved at me, I felt so happy with my life."


TWO Structure? What structure? There are so many things wrong with that piece of text, I am just going to break it down one by one. First off, there is literally no structure in this writing. Where are the paragraphs? When you write dialogue, please keep in mind that every sentence spoken by the other person has to be on a new line. When you're alternating between two people, it is okay to put multiple sentences on the same line, but when the other person is speaking, you will have to switch to a separate line. This is to prevent confusion, and makes reading much easier. Also, avoid the he said she said element, try to use variations such as he exclaimed, he sighed, she muttered under her breath etc.

THREE Unnecessary brackets. Unnecessary thoughts. Please do not insert thoughts in dialogue-format by using brackets. It is better to describe the thoughts of a character by means of description rather than just literally noting down what someone is thinking. Also please avoid using more than one exclamation/question mark, my head hurts from writing that piece.

FOUR
Sentences that just run on and on and on and on forever. Periods are not invented for fun, they're meant to be used. Running your sentences on forever makes people not want to read your story, believe me. Take a break.

FIVE Unnecessary detail. You don't describe every step or breath you take. Neither do you have to describe yourself brushing your hair, washing your face, brushing your teeth... Just say something along the lines of "getting ready for bed" and you just saved yourself five lines of unnecessary description. You're writing an entertaining story, not playing The Sims™.

SIX Repetitive, short sentences. More variation in the length of sentences and choice of words is advised. No more I walked, I spoke, I laughed, He sat. Instead, try to elaborate on your character's actions. Instead of I walked, you can use I made my way to...

FIVE
Correct grammar & spelling is the key to success. Not proficient in English? No worries, lots of native people on the internet are willing to help you out. Or you can just look up some grammar rules. Learn the difference between then and than, effect & affect, your and you're, and try to expand your vocabulary. Soon enough, you'll be able to converse like a real Englishman! And remember, practice makes perfect.

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"I woke up in the morning..."

No.






CLICHÉS TO AVOID

m a r y / g a r y  s u e
Almost every super-hero book or movie has one, the typical save-all and harm-none hero/heroine. Typically used in fanfiction to create the ultimate protagonist, the one everyone likes and adores, the one who can't make mistakes and ends up dating the hot guy/girl. Not only are these very unrealistic, they are also unoriginal and the product of lazy writing. Scrap them.

t h e   g o o d   g i r l  &  b a d   b o y
Please avoid these at all costs because the Wattpad library is already full of these stories. Every twist and every variation has already been written. You can only milk a concept so much before it becomes a joke.

t h e   p o s t - a p o c  a l y p t  i c  w a s t e l a n d
Does your story contain a post-apocalyptic world wherein a teenager is completely on their own, searching for a place to belong, while they subsequently also save the world? Stop. Rewind. Scrap everything. Rethink your life choices and look at the hundreds of other books before you who have come before you, with the exact same idea. Miraculously, these kind of books keep popping out of the nowhere like mushrooms. And how they always manage to end up on the NY best-selling list is beyond me. These books are entertaining at best, but don't contain a grain of originality. 



CHARACTERS TO AVOID

p e r f e c t i o n i s m
The rule of thumb is that if everyone seems to love your character, you're doing it wrong. This ties in with the mary/gary sue trope but is mostly focused on characterization. If your character does not have any flaws, it isn't human, unless of course your name is Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way, but you get what I mean. Try to make your character a believable person by giving them things to hate or regret. They might even make a bad decision occasionally, but that's okay because we're all human.

w h a t   a r e  t r a i t s ? ? ? 
Do not give your character one prevailing trait and use that as the sole base for all their thoughts, intentions and actions. You are not writing a cartoon character. People are intrinsically complicated and multi-dimensional. Give your character good and bad traits which kind of balance each other out. Even villains have to be fleshed out carefully.
Annnddd... Hint at why your character has their traits! A person is influenced by their surroundings.
Why is someone a villain? Has something happened to them in the past? Are there some personality traits they still have from before they were evil? And if a character has, for example, severe anxiety, we might question ourselves: Why does this particular character have this? Has something happened to them? Why would they be so anxious?

o o c   ( o u t  o f  c h a r a c t e r )
This is a problem lots of professional writers and screenplay writers seem to struggle with (side-eyeing practically all drama series writers here). Sometimes, characters perform actions or decisions that are just plain out of character. Usually writers do this to create a desired consequence/effect that will likely pull more viewers, but that is just capitalistic greed. You are writing stories for fun, try to stick to the personality of a character. If you're writing a shy person, they cannot be a leader-figure next chapter. Your character may grow out of its initial personality, but this happens gradually, it may take lots of trial and errors. A bildungsroman focuses especially on character development.

t h e  c h o s e n   o n e
yer a wezard hery

Only J.K. Rowling can pull this off.

t r y s t a n e   r h a e g h a r   d ö n e r   h a s k ø l f
Please don't use overly complicated names. They're unnecessary unless either your name is George R. R. Martin and you love to fuck your audience, or your character is the heir to the throne of Genovia. If a character is of a certain ethnicity, give them a fitting surname e.g.: China - Zhang, Russia - Mihaylovna, but don't be too stereotypical either. Don't name all your German characters Wolfgang and Albert, thanks.






WRITINGS TO AVOID

t o o   m u c h   j a r g o n
Sometimes you're trying to describe a really difficult term, or you're writing a legal trial or you're just talking about things you don't know shit about. Either way you're trying to incorporate difficult, foreign terms into sentences, in situations where it's just not necessary.

E.g.: "Cassie's heart was pounding and she already lost five liters of blood, she had to be rushed to the hospital after which she was injected with phenobarbital."

The first mistake with this sentence is the fact that phenobarbital is not even used to treat patients with extreme blood loss. Everything about this sentence is wrong. Please bear in mind that this is a terrible example, but you get what I'm saying. The writer probably did not do any research regarding blood-loss and/or treatment. When you want to include jargon in order to describe a certain situation accurately, please consult a professional. This could be your local general practitioner or a random person at the hospital, someone from your university/college, a teacher at your high school etc. Wrongly used jargon is extremely inconsiderate to people who actually spend time on studying these things. 

On another note, just also avoid using jargon as often as possible. People who read your books are innocent beans and not all have medical degrees and are able to understand such language, it also distracts since the information is not necessary in any way. It doesn't add anything plot wise. Avoid them.


d i f f i c u l t   l a n g u a g e
It is important to make use of a varied vocabulary, but you can also go too far. Using an abundance of complicated words just too show off will cause people to spend more time on searching for definitions rather than appreciate the writing. Use varied language, don't drain people out mentally. (Unless your name is Oscar Wilde, and you're a pretentious shit)

f o r e i g n   l a n g u a g e s
I especially find it funny when people try to write parts in a foreign language and it is clearly evident that they trusted Google translate to do the job. Bad decision. Please let someone who is at least familiar with the language and its grammar/syntax look over your text before you publish it. It isn't that hard to find someone who can speak a language fluently, don't be afraid to ask your teachers/classmates either. It is more embarrassing to use the wrong words than asking a stranger for help.

l o u s y  e n d i n g
Sometimes, writers just seem to lose motivation at the end of their writing and try to tie every loose end together in one final attempt at creating a satisfying dénouement (resolution). Please bear in mind that not every question in every sentence has to be answered, sometimes it is better to leave people to their imagination. Sometimes, it is better to put more effort in creating a good end, rather than just trying to please your readers. You are not writing for them, you are writing for yourself. However, it is important to look out for plot holes when creating a ending, it is better to wait a while before you write the ending. Creativity takes time to unfold.


TIP !!!
Béta-reading. Make someone else read your text before publishing. This could be a professional editor, a stranger, your best friend, even your mother. Someone else reading your text for the first time will definitely have different remarks on it than you do — who has been reading it the entire time. Some fresh, well-structured criticism will help you improve your text. Some passages might seem crystal clear to you, but to a stranger who does not know what feeling you are trying to convey, it might seem confusing. For this reason, a second opinion is essential.

Patience is key. Sometimes, authors wait entire years before they take a look at their writing again. You might come up with better ideas in the (near) future. What you consider a great piece of fiction today, might be horseshit later. A story is like fine wine, the older, the better.

And a wise man once said,

“The first draft of anything is shit.”
― Ernest Hemingway



TL;DR
Sources for more in-depth information on writing tropes, avoiding clichés and useful sites:

tvtropes.org - has a database for everyone trope of every book/movie/series in existence. Spit through some must avoids and signature tropes of good books for some inspiration.

medical jargon - for all your bloody fiction needs, but more accurate and professional !!!!

writing poc - if you want to include a character of an ethnicity that you are not very familiar with, and want to avoid stereotypical traits.

character flaws - so they don't become a mary/gary sue.

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You wrote apparance instead of appearance. I cannot take this seriously anymore, I'm sorry.
it's in cursive, apparance is the french translation of appearance because i am a pretentious, polyglottal snob. 😘 
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You wrote apparance instead of appearance. I cannot take this seriously anymore, I'm sorry.
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This blog post was a huge help for me, thank you so much~
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Very nicely written with many good points! Also interesting links :0 will have to look at them later
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Koolaid wrote on 04-07 16:39:
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I've also noticed that a lot of main characters are safe from the world.
Like, I get it, they're the main character. But there's this little thing called plot armor that can revolve around the main characters, which, mary sue or not, basically makes them more powerful than the others and able to endure anything, just for the sake of main character.
Like, I don't know about you, but I find it a lot more interesting when a main character gets injured and actually has to deal with it like the other characters instead of like, having healing powers or whatnot. Or when there are stronger characters. Obviously, a lot of people want to make their main character unique and interesting, but it's also great to see main characters who aren't the special snowflake of the book, and who can actually deal with issues and not be protected from the plot.
I like to use the webcomic Paranatural as an example. In it, some characters are these things called spectrals. They can see ghosts and spirits and have this thing called spectral energy. Basically, spectral energy comes in different colors. When the main character learns he is a spectral, his color is black. Now, Paranatural is a goofy comic, which partially explains the answer to it, but I still really like what's said about his spectral energy color. "BLACK spectral energy?! Thats... pretty common." Well, the line was something like that. (We see at least one background character with the same color at one point)
Obviously, when you get into the comic, you find there's hints of some things being "special" about the main character, but most people would use that as an excuse to make their character have something that's completely rare. But Zach (the creator) didn't, so I'm proud of him.
Ah yes I agree wholeheartedly! I love well-written characters who aren't invincible. Too bad that lot's of superhero movies rely on this "invincible-ness", they all have healing powers and what not. What bugs me is that whenever they get into a fight and are wounded, all their wounds and scars seem to have healed in like, what, two episodes? Also when a character seems to always be "rescued" by someone at the exact right time and moment, like what??? It's just so unrealistic and I cringe when reading these passages in books because they're clearly the product of lazy story writing.
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KotaCipher wrote on 04-07 16:33:
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I've also noticed that a lot of main characters are safe from the world.
Like, I get it, they're the main character. But there's this little thing called plot armor that can revolve around the main characters, which, mary sue or not, basically makes them more powerful than the others and able to endure anything, just for the sake of main character.
Like, I don't know about you, but I find it a lot more interesting when a main character gets injured and actually has to deal with it like the other characters instead of like, having healing powers or whatnot. Or when there are stronger characters. Obviously, a lot of people want to make their main character unique and interesting, but it's also great to see main characters who aren't the special snowflake of the book, and who can actually deal with issues and not be protected from the plot.
I like to use the webcomic Paranatural as an example. In it, some characters are these things called spectrals. They can see ghosts and spirits and have this thing called spectral energy. Basically, spectral energy comes in different colors. When the main character learns he is a spectral, his color is black. Now, Paranatural is a goofy comic, which partially explains the answer to it, but I still really like what's said about his spectral energy color. "BLACK spectral energy?! Thats... pretty common." Well, the line was something like that. (We see at least one background character with the same color at one point)
Obviously, when you get into the comic, you find there's hints of some things being "special" about the main character, but most people would use that as an excuse to make their character have something that's completely rare. But Zach (the creator) didn't, so I'm proud of him.
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Koolaid wrote on 04-07 11:44:
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Leggy wrote:
That is so annoying when they always call the characters the same name like for girls:Emma an for a boy: Daniel or peterlike me ive got a weord name and only once or twice i hae seen it in a book and when i did it was the smallest paerr in the book.  A really intresring blog seems like you have put a lot of efforts into it!!!!!
Thank you!
I really like it when they give characters names that fit their ethnicity/country. I think that in every book I've ever read there was an Emma sooo.. It's great to have more variation in names, but over complicated ones are also really distracting to me, unless you're writing fantasy or something.
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Koolaid wrote on 04-07 11:41:
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Ozeana wrote:
I consider myself a good writer. I get a great response and  sometimes a not-so-great response to my works.
I just ain't got time to please everyone. 

I try my best with originality, grammar and avoiding clichés. Then, if people don't like it, they're free to leave.
I can't use non-constructive negative comments.

- I do not really write at the moment because I'm caught up in procrastination. Last summer I hardly left my laptop because I was writing like a hurricane. I can use tips to find writing amusing again, I'm slightly losing it. 
Oh my I have that too. But remember, you write for yourself and not for someone else. If you're writing a part in order to please others, you're doing it wrong. And I also have the procrastination thing. But what's true for all forms of creativity is that it is not a constant stream of information. It comes in waves, big and small. Sometimes I have periods in which I can't write a word on a page without getting a headache, and sometimes I write for hours on end. Everyone has those kind of writer's blocks and you just have to wait for the right time. If you force your creativity to come out, it will only bring you misery.

Good luck with writing!
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Leggy wrote on 04-07 11:23:
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That is so annoying when they always call the characters the same name like for girls:Emma an for a boy: Daniel or peterlike me ive got a weord name and only once or twice i hae seen it in a book and when i did it was the smallest paerr in the book.  A really intresring blog seems like you have put a lot of efforts into it!!!!!
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Koolaid wrote on 04-07 08:46:
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Felicity wrote:
I love post-apocalyptic books!! But it's become such a big thing that I've read heaps that are just terrible  

I've only read one or two post-apocalyptic books in my life I think. Some dystopian ones but they weren't great sigh.
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Koolaid wrote on 03-07 23:02:
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"You're writing an entertaining story, not playing The Sims™."
Oh my days that made me laugh. This is well written and very informative so thank you for all the time and effort you put into this lovely piece! Definitely learnt heaps <3
Haha thanks, I'm glad it made you laugh! (:
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Sket wrote on 03-07 22:43:
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"You're writing an entertaining story, not playing The Sims™."
Oh my days that made me laugh. This is well written and very informative so thank you for all the time and effort you put into this lovely piece! Definitely learnt heaps <3
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Iero wrote on 03-07 21:30:
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Very helpful. i'll remember these for when I have to do any story writing.
Thank you!
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Koolaid wrote on 03-07 20:46:
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Hannahlynn wrote:
I'm not very good at making plots but how is this plot?

There's this girl, I don't know her name nor her age, but she just randomly starts seeing demons. The only way she thinks she can stop them is to kill them all. She gets her best friend to help her kill the demons, but her friend always tries to stop her. She doesn't understand why. Eventually, the demons trap her in a jail, and after a while she steals a gun from the jail. Her friend visits her in the jail. She's about to ask her friend for help escaping but her friend shoots her in the head. Then it moves onto the epilogue, where it shows her friend watching the news, where it reveals that she had been schizophrenic the entire time and she had been killing innocent people.
Love it! I sent you a mail (:
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Koolaid wrote on 03-07 19:44:
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Natarii wrote:
This is really good! I write myself and got some questions from a subscriber regarding her own story! This helps me with explaining what you should - should not do or use. Writing is seriously so fun!
It is and thanks 
Good luck with giving advice!
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Private wrote on 03-07 19:37:
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This is really good! I write myself and got some questions from a subscriber regarding her own story! This helps me with explaining what you should - should not do or use. Writing is seriously so fun!
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Koolaid wrote on 03-07 19:25:
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Vicingus wrote:
Up for a challenge? Break all these rules in a one page story!
oh my god you're a genius!
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Vicingus wrote on 03-07 18:58:
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Up for a challenge? Break all these rules in a one page story!
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Xagaia wrote on 03-07 18:40:
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This is so right! Thank you for writing this 
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Great post!
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Private wrote on 03-07 18:12:
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I was scared to read this as first, but now I'm glad did, because this made me feel like a better writer somehow, lmao. This was cos I already knew most of these things and the fact that I internationally avoid them. Makes me feel not-so-terrible. Also this article is great. 
Of course there are always (ok, not always) exceptions, and you should probably read it with just a tiny grain of salt, since like most things, these are just tips, and everything is subjective etc etc. Like the thing with repeating and short sentences, on one hand it could be good to avoid if you don't know what you're doing, but it is possible to do it well. Some things are (imo) not subjective, like the fact that you have to change paragraph of the speaker is changed. This is unarguable.
Anyways I loved this article, just like I love all your articles lmao. Also this made me realise that I don't even know the difference between effect and affect and now I feel kinda bad.
Thanks so much  
And yes, I agree whole-heartedly which is also why I put in the introduction that this article was going to be partially subjective. It is entirely possible to use short sentences as stylistic devices, which can work out great if used correctly. Some tips are very subjective (especially the clichés) and others are just there for you to improve your writing. I hope people will look at their own writing critically and try to get the best out of themselves.

Thank you for reading, I really appreciate it. And good luck with your writing btw 
yw!
and yeah that was a good decision haha
mm exactly! and it can be good as a poetic thing (notice that I don't actually know the words I should to be able to talk about writing lol) and also it's always always good to have variety, like sometimes you have to have long sentences, and it's good to mix up short ones in there too so it doesn't get repetitive and boring
yes! I think this is a great article to have behind you (??can I say that) when writing. lots of things to keep in mind and learn from other people's mistakes before making them on your own

yeah yw! ur articles r always so great ugh , n thank u hahah
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Koolaid wrote on 03-07 18:05:
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Encrede wrote:
I was scared to read this as first, but now I'm glad did, because this made me feel like a better writer somehow, lmao. This was cos I already knew most of these things and the fact that I internationally avoid them. Makes me feel not-so-terrible. Also this article is great. 
Of course there are always (ok, not always) exceptions, and you should probably read it with just a tiny grain of salt, since like most things, these are just tips, and everything is subjective etc etc. Like the thing with repeating and short sentences, on one hand it could be good to avoid if you don't know what you're doing, but it is possible to do it well. Some things are (imo) not subjective, like the fact that you have to change paragraph of the speaker is changed. This is unarguable.
Anyways I loved this article, just like I love all your articles lmao. Also this made me realise that I don't even know the difference between effect and affect and now I feel kinda bad.
Thanks so much ;) 
And yes, I agree whole-heartedly which is also why I put in the introduction that this article was going to be partially subjective. It is entirely possible to use short sentences as stylistic devices, which can work out great if used correctly. Some tips are very subjective (especially the clichés) and others are just there for you to improve your writing. I hope people will look at their own writing critically and try to get the best out of themselves.

Thank you for reading, I really appreciate it. And good luck with your writing btw 
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Private wrote on 03-07 17:59:
Encrede wrote:
also look at how professional i just tried to be lmao
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CompBoy wrote on 03-07 17:59:
CompBoy wrote:
this is very nice
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Private wrote on 03-07 17:58:
Encrede wrote:
I was scared to read this as first, but now I'm glad did, because this made me feel like a better writer somehow, lmao. This was cos I already knew most of these things and the fact that I internationally avoid them. Makes me feel not-so-terrible. Also this article is great. 
Of course there are always (ok, not always) exceptions, and you should probably read it with just a tiny grain of salt, since like most things, these are just tips, and everything is subjective etc etc. Like the thing with repeating and short sentences, on one hand it could be good to avoid if you don't know what you're doing, but it is possible to do it well. Some things are (imo) not subjective, like the fact that you have to change paragraph of the speaker is changed. This is unarguable.
Anyways I loved this article, just like I love all your articles lmao. Also this made me realise that I don't even know the difference between effect and affect and now I feel kinda bad.
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Koolaid wrote on 03-07 17:17:
Koolaid wrote:
Samra wrote:
amazing review!! hahah thanks I learned more from you than my teacher 
thanks and you're welcome!